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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 9860305" data-attributes="member: 4937">I never really suggested this couldn't be a possibility.Who said anything about mortals?  For one things, there is no reason why mortality would exist in either of the stated end conditions that I postulated, as in the first case no one ever dies and in the second case no one is alive to die.  Morality as a concept ceases to exist in either case.  So what makes you think I think this is primarily happening for the sake of mortals or even that mortals are central to it in some fashion?In some sense both Good and Evil have to do away with mortals by some means to achieve their end goal.Yes, that's exactly what I said stated in a different way.It would.  What's your point?  That they don't believe those things were evil but in some sense, they believed them wrong anyway? The they honestly believe that paradise is made better if someone is unhappy in it, even if that someone is themselves?  Wanting mortality and the cycle of life and death to continue endlessly as things are now, would be an example of exactly what I'm describing.Recognizing that you'd have to radically change to fit into Good's paradigm and not wanting to do that, and yet also not believing everything should be wiped out because as Douglas Adams put it "In the beginning the Universe was created.This had made many people very angry and has been widely regarded as a bad move.” would very much fit within my definition of "True Neutrality".</blockquote>

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