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<blockquote data-quote="IceBear" data-source="post: 156803" data-attributes="member: 1118"><p>Exactly - too much info. But you know know the direction the evil warlord is in when you might not have known this before. As per the DNDFAQ, not even discern location can defeat mind blank, but you could use multiple castings of TS to locate someone now. There is nothing in the description of the spell that implies you could do this. We are taking the part where it states you ignore miss chance and extrapolating it to providing information on where the target is located. That's obviously too much info, but being able to target an invisible person that you haven't located via Spot or Listen is the same thing.</p><p></p><p>Again, I have to ask, since the spell assists your next attack how does it know what you're attacking if you have detected it yourself. If you enter a room with a rope hanging from the ceiling and an invisible wizard stands under the rope (and you have some inkling that there is an invisible wizard around, but not preceisely where) how does the spell know that you aren't aiming at the rope when you shoot the arrow?</p><p></p><p>If a character made an attack without True Strike I would ask him what he was attacking, and if he wasn't attacking anything I would ask what 5ft square was he swing through. It wouldn't be until then that I would ask for him to roll a d20. I don't ask for him to roll a d20 (which would be when the TS effect comes into play - "your next attack") and then tell me what he was swing at. Why would I do it differently if he has TS cast?</p><p></p><p>I really wish that this spell wasn't a divination spell. The whole fact that it's a divination spell is what allows even the idea that this might work. It's the same with the whole Does Mind Blank stop True Strike thread.</p><p></p><p>I also think that people are using the term "targetting" as providing the +20 on the hit where I see it as actually choosing the target.</p><p></p><p>IceBear</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="IceBear, post: 156803, member: 1118"] Exactly - too much info. But you know know the direction the evil warlord is in when you might not have known this before. As per the DNDFAQ, not even discern location can defeat mind blank, but you could use multiple castings of TS to locate someone now. There is nothing in the description of the spell that implies you could do this. We are taking the part where it states you ignore miss chance and extrapolating it to providing information on where the target is located. That's obviously too much info, but being able to target an invisible person that you haven't located via Spot or Listen is the same thing. Again, I have to ask, since the spell assists your next attack how does it know what you're attacking if you have detected it yourself. If you enter a room with a rope hanging from the ceiling and an invisible wizard stands under the rope (and you have some inkling that there is an invisible wizard around, but not preceisely where) how does the spell know that you aren't aiming at the rope when you shoot the arrow? If a character made an attack without True Strike I would ask him what he was attacking, and if he wasn't attacking anything I would ask what 5ft square was he swing through. It wouldn't be until then that I would ask for him to roll a d20. I don't ask for him to roll a d20 (which would be when the TS effect comes into play - "your next attack") and then tell me what he was swing at. Why would I do it differently if he has TS cast? I really wish that this spell wasn't a divination spell. The whole fact that it's a divination spell is what allows even the idea that this might work. It's the same with the whole Does Mind Blank stop True Strike thread. I also think that people are using the term "targetting" as providing the +20 on the hit where I see it as actually choosing the target. IceBear [/QUOTE]
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