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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Teulisch" data-source="post: 7541842" data-attributes="member: 6776022">stealth is greater than passive perception. its true. shadow monks get a hefty +10 from pass without trace, need high dex to start with, and get other nice bonuses to mobility. dip a level of rogue for experteise, and you souble your proficiency bonus. disadvantage on passive perception is -5, so the cloak of elvenkind is advantage and an effective +5 at the same time. add in mask of the wild, and a wood elf shadow monk can hide a lot easier when outdoors. oh, and at-will invisibility at 11th. lets compare perception- a wisdom skill, so few will max the stat bonus. passive perception is 10+wisdom+proficiency. so 10+5+6= 21 passive perception, or +27 for a rogue with experteise (it does help spot traps). it is easy to build a character who will have a bonus higher than the total passive, so they make their stealth check even on a 1. stealth wins over perception. yes, you have to optimize a build to do this, but it works great with any wood elf- they can get the wood elf magic feat, for pass without trace 1/day regardless of class. and you can always get stealth from a background if your class does not have it. that plus the racial +2 dex and mask of the wild makes any wood elf a potential master of stealth. and boots/cloak of elvenkind give advantage on stealth, which would negate disadvantage for heavy armor.</blockquote>