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<blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 8546970" data-attributes="member: 177"><p>Flatly stating there is no design space is not convincing. I think you'll need to give some support for that before I buy it.</p><p></p><p>Moreover, I think you'll need to go into what you mean by "monstrous". What features are you expecting?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In my experience, D&D doesn't go into the Renaissance much, in terms of its tropes. It is mostly Gandalf, not much da Vinci. And, by the way, most would say the Renaissance is done in the 17th century. 18th century is the Revolutionary period, and the 19th century is the darned Industrial Revolution, Victorian period, which is out of scope for typical D&D. In those periods, the dominant weapons were firearms, not swords and armor.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>1) The classic tinker you are invoking is not a warrior.</p><p></p><p>2) The classic tinker may appear in Renaissance fantasy an later, but not in Medieval fantasy. While there is some overlap, in real world history, there is rather less overlap in fictional tropes.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Umbran, post: 8546970, member: 177"] Flatly stating there is no design space is not convincing. I think you'll need to give some support for that before I buy it. Moreover, I think you'll need to go into what you mean by "monstrous". What features are you expecting? In my experience, D&D doesn't go into the Renaissance much, in terms of its tropes. It is mostly Gandalf, not much da Vinci. And, by the way, most would say the Renaissance is done in the 17th century. 18th century is the Revolutionary period, and the 19th century is the darned Industrial Revolution, Victorian period, which is out of scope for typical D&D. In those periods, the dominant weapons were firearms, not swords and armor. 1) The classic tinker you are invoking is not a warrior. 2) The classic tinker may appear in Renaissance fantasy an later, but not in Medieval fantasy. While there is some overlap, in real world history, there is rather less overlap in fictional tropes. [/QUOTE]
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