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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8546974" data-attributes="member: 84112">then as someone that I think has oppisit experence... let me listen (well read)both are cool concepts and things that I would love to play.100% agreethis is were I am seeing the disconect. the drunk master can not prep X or Y they ALWAYS have Z. So you don't feel like you wasted preping Z it was your only option.  I will disagree with this becuse that is also true with plenty of casters "My waarlock took X spell and is locked in instead or Y"I have never wanted to tell anyone they did or will or am having less fun. I am sorry if it comes off that way.  However I am explaining why as both a DM and a player I HAVE HAD LESS FUN, or more honestly, we (my group) have found over time we just avoid straight non caster options until it feels like everyone just plays casters... sometimes we house rule or just player agreement to allow for a fighter/monk/rogue (those are or not multiclass) has something no one else does... even if it means the cleric avoids the melee combat domains and promises to never (or atleast almost never) self buff.</blockquote>