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Message: <blockquote data-quote="EzekielRaiden" data-source="post: 8547298" data-attributes="member: 6790260">Because people can always choose not to engage with rules they don't want to.It's a hell of a lot harder to find ways to engage with rules that don't exist.(And that doesn't even touch on the other side of this: people who like Fighters but want to have something meaningful to do during all the non-combat portions shouldn't have to make a choice between "playing what they actually like" and "playing something that will actually be enjoyable.")More importantly: who said having meaningful contributions meant having complicated things? Meaningful contributions don't have to be complicated. It IS possible to design this way. It's certainly not trivial to do so, but if designing it were trivial it would be unforgivable that 5e doesn't include it. It is reasonable to ask our designers to actually...you know...do the work of designing things. That's literally what we pay them for.Plus like...for real? "Some people like being able to not play, so we should force anyone who likes Fighters to not play just to help those folks" is a pretty damn bizarre argument.</blockquote>