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<blockquote data-quote="tetrasodium" data-source="post: 8548202" data-attributes="member: 93670"><p>"the weave" is kind of a setting specific thing loaded with fr specific lore. Eberron dsrksun & probably raveloft have a different system depending on where you are & how they view things. Core class abilities do not need setting specific lore baked in like that & they certainly don't need the least advanced setting with the thickest coat of plot armored handwavium being the one dragging the others down</p><p></p><p></p><p>Trouble is that in these threads "mythic martial" as its apparently being called today seems to be "everything the fighter can do in combat just as well or better plus everything any other class can do within that class's niche". When anyone points out how broken that would be then contrived whiteroom scenarios like quantum wizards against fighters who spend 20 levels with as nonmagic dagger forced to upgrade to a plus one sickle. </p><p></p><p></p><p> The amount of blindness to what different classes can & can't do within the limitations of their strengths & weaknesses tends to be tossed aside just as blithely too. Just the other day there was a thread about how fighters should be tool masters because no other class fits that... Twenty two posts of dah rah each later someone pointed out the artificer who actually has that as a core part of their identity.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="tetrasodium, post: 8548202, member: 93670"] "the weave" is kind of a setting specific thing loaded with fr specific lore. Eberron dsrksun & probably raveloft have a different system depending on where you are & how they view things. Core class abilities do not need setting specific lore baked in like that & they certainly don't need the least advanced setting with the thickest coat of plot armored handwavium being the one dragging the others down Trouble is that in these threads "mythic martial" as its apparently being called today seems to be "everything the fighter can do in combat just as well or better plus everything any other class can do within that class's niche". When anyone points out how broken that would be then contrived whiteroom scenarios like quantum wizards against fighters who spend 20 levels with as nonmagic dagger forced to upgrade to a plus one sickle. The amount of blindness to what different classes can & can't do within the limitations of their strengths & weaknesses tends to be tossed aside just as blithely too. Just the other day there was a thread about how fighters should be tool masters because no other class fits that... Twenty two posts of dah rah each later someone pointed out the artificer who actually has that as a core part of their identity. [/QUOTE]
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