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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mort" data-source="post: 8548549" data-attributes="member: 762">Yes, exactly. The caster casts dimension door and appears 400 feet away.The fighter, using some kind of established metacurrency, cashes it in and conveniently finds a zipline to get from A to B or a perfectly placed awning that allows him to jump down 400 feet without taking damage etc. (for a great take on this going hilariously wrong watch The Other Guys - great fake out re: action hero plot armor!).This can be upped at higher level. The caster casts teleport and gets somewhere 1000 miles away immediately. the fighter, again cashing in some metacurrency, conveniently finds a passing airship, roc. dragon and also gets to where he needs to go "instantaneously enough."Now the real issue with the 2 above examples. They take the fighter from having to "mother may I" the DM or the DM without input having to provide a means for the fighter to get from point A to point B - to allowing the fighter's player to control the game enough to force the issue - in other words narrative control.I'm curious, would those that argue that spells like teleport are simply plot short cuts that the DM would provide for anyway - and thus don't actually change the game that much (such as [USER=6879661]@TheSword[/USER] ) be up for allowing the fighter to pull the same stunt (in a non-magic way) without having to mother may I or otherwise rely on the DM?</blockquote>