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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8550123" data-attributes="member: 84112">I have 0 problem with this.&nbsp; Knight/Warlord/Marshal/Warblade/Swordsage&nbsp; there NEEDs to be a new martial class.we started with 4 classes magic user (full caster)Priest (2/3 caster)thief (no cast but skills)fighting man (no cast but buff combat) we now have (PHB) Wizard Sorcerer Cleric Druid Bard (full caster) (some of those get full armor weapon 2 attacks and bonus damage so also awesome martial)Rouge Monk (no casting but some cool abilities still mostly skill and combat)Warlock (almost a full caster but more limited... my favorite design for a class)Paliden and Ranger (1/2 caster with fighting and skill tricks)Fighter and Barbarian (cust combat buff no cast)HOWEVER we have subclasses in fighter and rogue to make them 1/3 casters...so we went from 4 classes 2 caster 2 not to 12 classes 4-5(depending on counting warlock) full caster, 2 half caster and 4 non caster but 2 of the non casters have subclasses ffor casting...the only new class is artificer (and I do like it) and it is... a half caster. Barbarian and Monk Fighter and Rogueto quote oceans 11 &quot;I think we need 1 more&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8550123, member: 84112"] I have 0 problem with this. Knight/Warlord/Marshal/Warblade/Swordsage there NEEDs to be a new martial class. we started with 4 classes magic user (full caster) Priest (2/3 caster) thief (no cast but skills) fighting man (no cast but buff combat) we now have (PHB) Wizard Sorcerer Cleric Druid Bard (full caster) (some of those get full armor weapon 2 attacks and bonus damage so also awesome martial) Rouge Monk (no casting but some cool abilities still mostly skill and combat) Warlock (almost a full caster but more limited... my favorite design for a class) Paliden and Ranger (1/2 caster with fighting and skill tricks) Fighter and Barbarian (cust combat buff no cast) HOWEVER we have subclasses in fighter and rogue to make them 1/3 casters... so we went from 4 classes 2 caster 2 not to 12 classes 4-5(depending on counting warlock) full caster, 2 half caster and 4 non caster but 2 of the non casters have subclasses ffor casting... the only new class is artificer (and I do like it) and it is... a half caster. Barbarian and Monk Fighter and Rogue to quote oceans 11 "I think we need 1 more" [/QUOTE]

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