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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FrogReaver" data-source="post: 8552147" data-attributes="member: 6795602">Your poll specifically asked how to fix 5e.  "Fix" carries alot of baggage.  If you had instead asked would it be an improvement if Fighters got a a few additional out of combat capabilties you could have had very different results.  Polls are fickle.  Fun, but fickle.You seem to expect immediate and overwhelming agreement.  That's not how this is ever going to work.We all want a little different things and think the problem is a bit bigger or smaller than others.  We discuss and negotiate to find what compromises work and what solutions can get broad agreement.  Part of the problem is everyone wants everything fixed just how they want it right now, instead of accepting that some more minor improvements can happen now due to broad agreement while other things they'd like to see just aren't going to get that broad level of agreement right now.It's the internet.  Not everyone is going to ever agree on anything.Escalation isn't helpful to discussion.  Usually the reason you get fire in the first place is because something you said was perceived as fire to someone else.Just change your perspective.  The goal isn't to achieve broad agreement but instead to understand the various levels of differences so you can pinpoint areas where there is broad agreement - even if that's not fully all the changes some would like.  While doing that raise some strong points for your preferences and solutions and hope that over time those ideas eventually persuade others.Maybe it's because I don't fight fire with fire  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></blockquote>

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