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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Nyeshet" data-source="post: 2735154" data-attributes="member: 18363">Refuge is interesting, but I wonder a bit about it. As a 9th level spell it cannot be created except by near-epic level characters. Also, the use of the item destroys it, and from what I recall Trumps were not auto-destroyed upon teleportational use. Use Magic Device would work well enough for Use Trump, I think. I really need to re-read the Amber novels if I am going to meaningfully aid this thread. I'm working with faded memories and conjecture based upon what I am reading in this thread. So the item can act as a Scrying focus. Well, as it must (initially) be a Masterwork Illumination (miniature painting) it can readily act as such anyway. Unless it can scry upon the current situation in the location pictured it does not need the Scrying spell associated with it, although those that know the spell may use the Trump as a focus for such due to its excellent representation of the location (and those with Clairvoyance may use the Trump to scry upon the person depicted on the Trump, if it is that type instead of a location type). Detect Thoughts / Sending. I'm guessing these work more or less together, allowing converse with the one pictured on the Trump (if it is a portrait rather than a landscape). So perhaps these can be amalgamated into a mere Sending, reducing the cost and keeping the flavor. As Sending allows for an answer I think this is not problematic. And if it allows at will (or based upon charges) then conversations may exist for a few rounds - burning up most of the charges in the process, of course. Could a Trump allow for more than one use of portal? If so Refuge cannot be used and Greater Teleport becomes again the preferred spell for this use. This is also true if Trumps could be created by those of only mid-level power (13th) as opposed to only the greatest mages (17th). I think the final idea will be a Staff like item - uses charges, no body-slot, perhaps multiple charges for the portal-style power (Greater Teleport).- - - - -[Edit, adding more text rather than New Post]By the SRD: Spell Effect / Special: Charged (50 charges): 1/2 unlimited use priceUse-Activated or Continuous (ie: unlimited use): 2,000 gp * CL * Spell levelSo, it should be 1,000 gp * CL * Spell LevelDue to using 2 charges we can add in a *0.5 modifier to the Greater Teleport. However, due to having Sending also associated with it, we need to add in a *1.5 modifier to that spell. And due to being slotless the entire thing is *2 in cost. However, due to the limitation of a single target we could probably drop that requirement. So we have: (1000 * 13 * 7 * 0.5) + (1000 * 13 * 5 * 1.5) = 146,250 gpNeedless to say, this is far too costly for the item - especially before doubling, and especially since - if created as a Staff - if would only cost ~18% of this cost (26,500 gp) ! [Staff cost: (375 * 13 * 7 * 0.5) + (281.25 * 13 * 5 * 0.5) = 26,203.125 gp. This presumes 2 charges used for each use of Greater Teleport and Sending. Add 300 gp for masterwork card and round down]I would go with the Staff cost, myself, and I would not worry about it not being a staff. After all, they can't make it until they are more than high enough in level to craft staves anyway.</blockquote>

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