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<blockquote data-quote="francisca" data-source="post: 3077004" data-attributes="member: 9734"><p>It's lost on a lot of people who played 1e as well. To me, and all of the old schoolers I game with on a regular or semi-regular basis (about 20 people), if we want the feel of the 1e, we'll just play 1e. We already have the books. Replacements can be had online or at used bookstores for less that half the cost of a C&C book.</p><p></p><p>So, in summary, for a bunch of Grognards to play C&C, the following has to happen:</p><p>1) They have to be aware of it. Of those 20 guys mentioned above, I'm the only guy who has heard of it, at least until I told them about it. </p><p>2) They'd have to shell out $20 for a new book, even though that 1978 copy of the PHB is probably just fine, and a used copy can be had for $7-$10. If they've already shelled out the $40 for a 3.5 PHB, they might be even more resistant to the idea.</p><p>3) They'd actually have to make this leap of faith: I'm going to learn a new system, and the result will be a game, which is kinda like the game I used to play, but not exactly. And it's supposed to be just as fun. At this point, they look at step #2 again.</p><p>4) Finally, they would have to find some other guys to play it. Which means a fistful of other grognards who went through this same thought process. They think about about #2 and #3 again at this point.</p><p></p><p>I bought the C&C books. It's an OK system, but to me, it really does not capture the feel of 1e or B/X D&D enough for me to bother to seek out other C&C players, let alone try to convince my old school buddies to "update". To a lot of people, 1e isn't broken, so they aren't going to try to fix it (beyond houserules, of course. <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite2" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=";)" /> )</p><p></p><p>I'm content running my 1e Greyhawk game, and playing in my buddy's 3.5 DragonLance game. C&C just isn't gaining any traction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="francisca, post: 3077004, member: 9734"] It's lost on a lot of people who played 1e as well. To me, and all of the old schoolers I game with on a regular or semi-regular basis (about 20 people), if we want the feel of the 1e, we'll just play 1e. We already have the books. Replacements can be had online or at used bookstores for less that half the cost of a C&C book. So, in summary, for a bunch of Grognards to play C&C, the following has to happen: 1) They have to be aware of it. Of those 20 guys mentioned above, I'm the only guy who has heard of it, at least until I told them about it. 2) They'd have to shell out $20 for a new book, even though that 1978 copy of the PHB is probably just fine, and a used copy can be had for $7-$10. If they've already shelled out the $40 for a 3.5 PHB, they might be even more resistant to the idea. 3) They'd actually have to make this leap of faith: I'm going to learn a new system, and the result will be a game, which is kinda like the game I used to play, but not exactly. And it's supposed to be just as fun. At this point, they look at step #2 again. 4) Finally, they would have to find some other guys to play it. Which means a fistful of other grognards who went through this same thought process. They think about about #2 and #3 again at this point. I bought the C&C books. It's an OK system, but to me, it really does not capture the feel of 1e or B/X D&D enough for me to bother to seek out other C&C players, let alone try to convince my old school buddies to "update". To a lot of people, 1e isn't broken, so they aren't going to try to fix it (beyond houserules, of course. ;) ) I'm content running my 1e Greyhawk game, and playing in my buddy's 3.5 DragonLance game. C&C just isn't gaining any traction. [/QUOTE]
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