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<blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5738421" data-attributes="member: 95493"><p>It's a BALOR, that's how it should be. A 12th level nerd with a nice spell and handy feats shouldn't be able to take down a REALLY evil baddy solo.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, like the fighter or other melee people they'll have to spend money on their equipment and have to plan more than a nights rest ahead of taking down the next great evil?</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It's hard to argue with this. Monks are weak compared to most any other class.</p><p></p><p>I don't agree that they're "balanced". In fact monks have too many "grab-bag" abilities whereas the fighter can get feats to up his AC, damage, attack, limited enemy control. A barbarian can do so as well, but less with feats and more his rage which is an immediate boost.</p><p>I think it would have been a better idea to not reduce wizard down to monk but to maybe bring it more in line with fighter. Especially when you think how much people seem to fight over every little thing when it comes to monks. The problem isn't capping fireball or similar spells. The problem is that wizards have too many options. This rule change doesn't seem to address it but I do appreciate the effort to reduce casters to a non-caster level as opposed to buffing everything up to try and fill the gap in the other direction.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Tovec, post: 5738421, member: 95493"] It's a BALOR, that's how it should be. A 12th level nerd with a nice spell and handy feats shouldn't be able to take down a REALLY evil baddy solo. So, like the fighter or other melee people they'll have to spend money on their equipment and have to plan more than a nights rest ahead of taking down the next great evil? It's hard to argue with this. Monks are weak compared to most any other class. I don't agree that they're "balanced". In fact monks have too many "grab-bag" abilities whereas the fighter can get feats to up his AC, damage, attack, limited enemy control. A barbarian can do so as well, but less with feats and more his rage which is an immediate boost. I think it would have been a better idea to not reduce wizard down to monk but to maybe bring it more in line with fighter. Especially when you think how much people seem to fight over every little thing when it comes to monks. The problem isn't capping fireball or similar spells. The problem is that wizards have too many options. This rule change doesn't seem to address it but I do appreciate the effort to reduce casters to a non-caster level as opposed to buffing everything up to try and fill the gap in the other direction. [/QUOTE]
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