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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Tovec" data-source="post: 5738540" data-attributes="member: 95493">True, turns wizard into an expensive commoner, negates the spell which summoned a Balor to the Prime Material in the first place. Repulsion was a weak choice, granted.Also 45% chance is far better than I would expect at level 12.How is a full-round any worse than a standard action if the Balor is right on top of you? If the Balor is going to interrupt the casting they're going to do it no matter if the spell takes a full or standard action.I said it was a lesser choice, it works best when the Balor can't see you and you can get clean away.290 HP means its going to be hard to kill anything in one hitting. Doesn't matter if you are a wizard.This is where the feats like Spell Penetration helps. I'm not going to address each of these separately. Yes the balor would almost certainly make the save. On most saves he has a 1, 2 or 3 in 20 of failing. That is still MORE of a chance than the fighter gets.What about banishment? I started at level 6, but there are a number of helpful spells at lower levels to evade, hide, mislead, scry, teleport, dimensional shift away from the Balor. Yes if the Balor is THAT intent on killing you he will but I'm assuming a challenge the same as any other creature not having a vendetta against the caster. My point still remains that a caster, with 6th level spells alone, has FAR more options and CHANCES to defeat a balor than a fighter of equal level. The balor would have to fail 1 save against the caster, where as he would have to fail to hit about 60 times for the fighter to have an equal chance.</blockquote>

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