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<blockquote data-quote="Festivus" data-source="post: 5249679" data-attributes="member: 34532"><p>Here is a thought, shave off hit points from the soldiers, roughly 5hp per level of the creature. Where I find 4E gets in trouble is with things that weaken, combined with incorporeal and regeneration... that's the 2 hour horror story of combats. I don't let those situations run up. I don't see many of those in Slaying Stone (except perhaps encounter 11, and I could argue that the particular problem in that encounter doesn't need to be:</p><p>[sblock]</p><p>Either remove regeneration from the wererat, or since Triflik can attack him, he probably won't when hit anyhow. Or reduce it to 5 to shorten the fight up.</p><p></p><p>Another thought: Perhaps the party can work something out with the wererat and he will fight alongside the party, perhaps struggling to not attack the party. I could imagine you could dream up a skill challenge to keep him in the fight against the goblins and not attacking the party.</p><p>[/sblock]</p><p>Regardless, to scale to 3 you are going to need to shave levels of or drop creatures from encounters or the party will constantly be overpowered.</p><p>HS2 starts at level 5, HS1 leaves off at level 2... you would need some filler. Chaos Scar will help a little but you will probably need to find something else or make up some adventures. I am also faced with that quandry at some point, and will probably do a combo of Chaos Scar and my own adventures. I haven't looked at the new Tiefling city book, but the dwarven one Hammarfast had lots of plot hooks to work with.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Chaos Scar would need a DDI account, but then so does getting the character builder to build the classes you listed in your initial post. Why not buy just one month, download the CB and the Chaos Scar adventures you need, and then cancel. You can continue to use the CB after your subscription in cancelled and covers all the clasess and races available at that time. Granted it isn't free, but it's not a ton of money either.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Keep on the Shadowfell was the first published adventure for 4E. I think you will find Slaying Stone a better experience. I don't have many suggestions for you outside of that, sorry <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f641.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":(" title="Frown :(" data-smilie="3"data-shortname=":(" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Festivus, post: 5249679, member: 34532"] Here is a thought, shave off hit points from the soldiers, roughly 5hp per level of the creature. Where I find 4E gets in trouble is with things that weaken, combined with incorporeal and regeneration... that's the 2 hour horror story of combats. I don't let those situations run up. I don't see many of those in Slaying Stone (except perhaps encounter 11, and I could argue that the particular problem in that encounter doesn't need to be: [sblock] Either remove regeneration from the wererat, or since Triflik can attack him, he probably won't when hit anyhow. Or reduce it to 5 to shorten the fight up. Another thought: Perhaps the party can work something out with the wererat and he will fight alongside the party, perhaps struggling to not attack the party. I could imagine you could dream up a skill challenge to keep him in the fight against the goblins and not attacking the party. [/sblock] Regardless, to scale to 3 you are going to need to shave levels of or drop creatures from encounters or the party will constantly be overpowered. HS2 starts at level 5, HS1 leaves off at level 2... you would need some filler. Chaos Scar will help a little but you will probably need to find something else or make up some adventures. I am also faced with that quandry at some point, and will probably do a combo of Chaos Scar and my own adventures. I haven't looked at the new Tiefling city book, but the dwarven one Hammarfast had lots of plot hooks to work with. Chaos Scar would need a DDI account, but then so does getting the character builder to build the classes you listed in your initial post. Why not buy just one month, download the CB and the Chaos Scar adventures you need, and then cancel. You can continue to use the CB after your subscription in cancelled and covers all the clasess and races available at that time. Granted it isn't free, but it's not a ton of money either. Keep on the Shadowfell was the first published adventure for 4E. I think you will find Slaying Stone a better experience. I don't have many suggestions for you outside of that, sorry :( [/QUOTE]
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