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<blockquote data-quote="milo" data-source="post: 5220601" data-attributes="member: 929"><p>I don't think either item that I mentioned was overly powerful or expensive, especially at 11th level. It also gets you away from the boring items like cloak of res, ring of prot, etc. If I have to quest for a specific item when playing a monk a monk's robe would probably be pretty high on the list. I have never as a DM or a player quested for or seen someone quest for a feat, I have always thought that gaining experience for battle or roleplaying was the questing for feats, otherwise everyone would be questing for a feat at least every 3rd level, fighters almost every level. If you do that do you stop at feats, what about new spell levels or skill points. </p><p></p><p></p><p>The feats I mentioned, superior unarmed strike and improved natural attack don't rely on brute strength, and actually with those feats you can ignore strength to a greater degree and still be effective in combat. Pick up weapon finesse or intuitive attack and you can have a strength of 10 and still be very effective. Also by taking intuitive attack you can dump almost everything into wisdom and have decent stunning fist DC.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="milo, post: 5220601, member: 929"] I don't think either item that I mentioned was overly powerful or expensive, especially at 11th level. It also gets you away from the boring items like cloak of res, ring of prot, etc. If I have to quest for a specific item when playing a monk a monk's robe would probably be pretty high on the list. I have never as a DM or a player quested for or seen someone quest for a feat, I have always thought that gaining experience for battle or roleplaying was the questing for feats, otherwise everyone would be questing for a feat at least every 3rd level, fighters almost every level. If you do that do you stop at feats, what about new spell levels or skill points. The feats I mentioned, superior unarmed strike and improved natural attack don't rely on brute strength, and actually with those feats you can ignore strength to a greater degree and still be effective in combat. Pick up weapon finesse or intuitive attack and you can have a strength of 10 and still be very effective. Also by taking intuitive attack you can dump almost everything into wisdom and have decent stunning fist DC. [/QUOTE]
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