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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6532110" data-attributes="member: 4937">Quite honestly, your game resembles nothing I've ever encountered before.&nbsp; You talk about 'whittling down' monsters, but in my experience with high level play and in stories I've heard about epic play, the more usual sort of play is that if the monster isn't dead by the middle of the first round, chances are the party is risking a TPK.&nbsp; The low epic monsters in my Signature were designed specifically to last longer than a single round against peer foes.&nbsp; I would generally expect most 40th level characters to dispatch one in a single round solo.&nbsp; So I'm at a loss to understand how you reached such high levels if your players don't have a win button versus everything, as in general, you'll be facing a lot of foes that have 'save or die' powers with DC's in the 40's or higher.&nbsp; Without absolute immunity and absolutely effective offense, how do you actually survive?&nbsp;&nbsp; You mention that you don't find challenges until you are in the outer planes, but even the rulers of those planes - Ssendam, Primus, Demogorgon, Tiamat, Orcus, Mephistopheles, etc. - are no match for 40th level characters.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6532110, member: 4937"] Quite honestly, your game resembles nothing I've ever encountered before. You talk about 'whittling down' monsters, but in my experience with high level play and in stories I've heard about epic play, the more usual sort of play is that if the monster isn't dead by the middle of the first round, chances are the party is risking a TPK. The low epic monsters in my Signature were designed specifically to last longer than a single round against peer foes. I would generally expect most 40th level characters to dispatch one in a single round solo. So I'm at a loss to understand how you reached such high levels if your players don't have a win button versus everything, as in general, you'll be facing a lot of foes that have 'save or die' powers with DC's in the 40's or higher. Without absolute immunity and absolutely effective offense, how do you actually survive? You mention that you don't find challenges until you are in the outer planes, but even the rulers of those planes - Ssendam, Primus, Demogorgon, Tiamat, Orcus, Mephistopheles, etc. - are no match for 40th level characters. [/QUOTE]

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