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<blockquote data-quote="captnq" data-source="post: 6544461" data-attributes="member: 6761684">I don't know. What rules aren't you enforcing?Are you skipping over movement on a grid?Are you ignoring spell components?Are you making sure players HAND you the spell lists they have ready and are you checking them off as they use them?Are you enforcing resting times?Are you enforcing WBL and hitting the players with XP penalties?Are they multiclassing and violating the max level rules?In low level play, you can gloss over things. In high level play you NEED to enforce ALL the rules or the players will walk all over you. For example:Player got together the equipment to make a 200,000 gp magic item. That's 200 days to create in game time. We go about 3-4 sessions to cover one game day. He ain't finishing it any time soon.It costs about 27,500 gp to get a +1 to a stat. Count that against WBL.There are all sorts of speed bumps. Enforce the rules as INTENDED, not as written. Just make it clear and spell out the clarifications. If you need a list, check out my handbook guide the EVD.<a href="http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=11953.msg204497#msg204497" target="_blank">http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=11953.msg204497#msg204497</a>I often have editor notes that say, &quot;DM's DON'T ALLOW THIS!&quot; and &quot;Players! Try and get away with this!&quot; Should be a good guideline. Honestly 99% of the true rules abuse isn't practical when you ask questions like, &quot;And... HOW are you planning on become a twice betrayer of Shar?&quot;Remember the old Mulhorand saying: A Player's ears are in his back and he hears best when he is beaten.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="captnq, post: 6544461, member: 6761684"] I don't know. What rules aren't you enforcing? Are you skipping over movement on a grid? Are you ignoring spell components? Are you making sure players HAND you the spell lists they have ready and are you checking them off as they use them? Are you enforcing resting times? Are you enforcing WBL and hitting the players with XP penalties? Are they multiclassing and violating the max level rules? In low level play, you can gloss over things. In high level play you NEED to enforce ALL the rules or the players will walk all over you. For example: Player got together the equipment to make a 200,000 gp magic item. That's 200 days to create in game time. We go about 3-4 sessions to cover one game day. He ain't finishing it any time soon. It costs about 27,500 gp to get a +1 to a stat. Count that against WBL. There are all sorts of speed bumps. Enforce the rules as INTENDED, not as written. Just make it clear and spell out the clarifications. If you need a list, check out my handbook guide the EVD. [url]http://www.minmaxboards.com/index.php?topic=11953.msg204497#msg204497[/url] I often have editor notes that say, "DM's DON'T ALLOW THIS!" and "Players! Try and get away with this!" Should be a good guideline. Honestly 99% of the true rules abuse isn't practical when you ask questions like, "And... HOW are you planning on become a twice betrayer of Shar?" Remember the old Mulhorand saying: A Player's ears are in his back and he hears best when he is beaten. [/QUOTE]

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