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<blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6546886" data-attributes="member: 4937"><p>And as such, they are as I would expect of anything claiming to be CR 40+, more or less invulnerable to most common modes of attack, so that, if for example Mephistopheles prepares his legion of ice devils to ambush the players, 1000 overlapping ice storms would have an expected damage near zero or at the very least its a trivial application of power to prepare for such an attack. Just as a 20th level Barbarian is more less immune to an army of kobolds, so a 40th level character is more or less immune to 'mooks' that would be significant foes for non-epic characters. Simultaneously being targeted by 100 meteor swarms yields exactly zero damage to any of the characters you mention. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>But here I think you misunderstand me. Despite having absolute immunity to all the expected sorts of attacks that you need absolute immunity to, they aren't absolutely invulnerable to everything. Presumably other epic foes can in fact challenge them. It would be pretty trivial to give examples, but the important point here is that not only do the above immunities prevent the party from being trivially overwhelmed by low level foes, but they also keep epic foes from overwhelming them with cheese strategies generally.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Celebrim, post: 6546886, member: 4937"] And as such, they are as I would expect of anything claiming to be CR 40+, more or less invulnerable to most common modes of attack, so that, if for example Mephistopheles prepares his legion of ice devils to ambush the players, 1000 overlapping ice storms would have an expected damage near zero or at the very least its a trivial application of power to prepare for such an attack. Just as a 20th level Barbarian is more less immune to an army of kobolds, so a 40th level character is more or less immune to 'mooks' that would be significant foes for non-epic characters. Simultaneously being targeted by 100 meteor swarms yields exactly zero damage to any of the characters you mention. But here I think you misunderstand me. Despite having absolute immunity to all the expected sorts of attacks that you need absolute immunity to, they aren't absolutely invulnerable to everything. Presumably other epic foes can in fact challenge them. It would be pretty trivial to give examples, but the important point here is that not only do the above immunities prevent the party from being trivially overwhelmed by low level foes, but they also keep epic foes from overwhelming them with cheese strategies generally. [/QUOTE]
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