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Message: <blockquote data-quote="RandomUsernamehmimo71" data-source="post: 1171141" data-attributes="member: 9051">Thanks for looking through that for me. I really appreciate it. I do have a couple of comments or replies, though.True, but keep in mind we're talking about a First Level Fighter here. That is all the attacks he could make during one round. You're right in that I did not account for the +50% bonus for using the sword two handed initially. Good point. That throws off Every calculation of Long Sword further on.Agreed. That's why I went into the Great sword below. The reason I was looking at the Long sword versus two long swords was to establish a baseline... If TWF was so seriously borked that fighting with Two of Long Swords was worse than one Long Sword, then there would be a very serious problem. But we need to start with that, as a base, and then expand upon it.As it is, the fact that they are equal is damning evidence, but the greater maximum damage of TWF makes a possibility.. Until you start looking at a greatsword, as I did further on.That's true, but you're skipping ahead. I was first comparing a TWF fighter, to a fighter with a Great Sword, without Power Attack. Each is a feat, and it's a fair comparison to compare them, as you suggest. In fact, I did exactly that later on.. But in testing, you want to examine one variable at a time. So I was, trying at least, to test TWF against the Great Sword, before introducing the Power Attack ont he Great Sword.That's true, but I was adding that to be able to later on discuss the posibility of modifying the Great Sword Crit range, to attempt to fix the problem.  It came out even for Average Damage, and a greater maximum. That is for comparing One Longsword WITHOUT powerattack to Two Long Swords, with TWF. That being said, if you give the Long Sword Power Attack under the 3.5 rules, it does come out ahead. 5.75 damage with Power Attack with a Long Sword, and only 5.25 with TWF. Thanks for the help. I'm a bit frustrated that I don't seem to understand WoTC motivations.. They aren't setting rules to make things balance out right (which simple math shows), and they aren't setting them to be ultra-realistic.. So I'm a bit at a loss as to how they derived their numbers..Colin</blockquote>

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