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<blockquote data-quote="Tywyll" data-source="post: 1206972" data-attributes="member: 8360">Perhaps in your definition, but my group prefers high dex, finesse fighters.&nbsp; They might not deal out as much damage as a maxed strength fighter, but then they are not playing the game as a math exercise.&nbsp; They chose dex based fighting, and often two weapon fighting, because it fits the concepts they prefer.&nbsp; Due to their high ACs they tend to be able to easily nickle and dime their opponents to death.&nbsp; The Unfettered is by far the most popular class among my players.&nbsp; As raoul points out, the price of Devanian is negligible.&nbsp; Granted, I haven't made your average longsword cost more then the Devanian version (1000gp for a mithril longsword) but it still slows it down a bit, and I prefer the idea of substances granting that ability, not some culture's forging techniques.&nbsp; &nbsp; Nope, never said that at all.&nbsp; Right now I don't use the AU implementation I use the 3.5 one.&nbsp; My problem with the AU implementation is the Ambidexterity feat.&nbsp; But the difference is that its the only style that gives less then half a benefit per feat.&nbsp; If being ambidexteritous had some advantage outside of combat, or in other aspects of combat, I might not mind.&nbsp; As it is now, what we have is a system that states: you want to fight this style?&nbsp; Its so powerful you need two feats, neither of which is that effective on their own, both of which are just barely on par with the Greatsword wielder.That doesn't work for me.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tywyll, post: 1206972, member: 8360"] Perhaps in your definition, but my group prefers high dex, finesse fighters. They might not deal out as much damage as a maxed strength fighter, but then they are not playing the game as a math exercise. They chose dex based fighting, and often two weapon fighting, because it fits the concepts they prefer. Due to their high ACs they tend to be able to easily nickle and dime their opponents to death. The Unfettered is by far the most popular class among my players. As raoul points out, the price of Devanian is negligible. Granted, I haven't made your average longsword cost more then the Devanian version (1000gp for a mithril longsword) but it still slows it down a bit, and I prefer the idea of substances granting that ability, not some culture's forging techniques. Nope, never said that at all. Right now I don't use the AU implementation I use the 3.5 one. My problem with the AU implementation is the Ambidexterity feat. But the difference is that its the only style that gives less then half a benefit per feat. If being ambidexteritous had some advantage outside of combat, or in other aspects of combat, I might not mind. As it is now, what we have is a system that states: you want to fight this style? Its so powerful you need two feats, neither of which is that effective on their own, both of which are just barely on par with the Greatsword wielder. That doesn't work for me. [/QUOTE]

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