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<blockquote data-quote="BradfordFerguson" data-source="post: 4020964" data-attributes="member: 20048">Ungeheuer, OK, I see that giving it to the barbarian AT WILL, is a problem.&nbsp; Thanks for the feedback.&nbsp; If I keep it for the first game session, I will likely change it to USE: 1/encounter and also define a duration: 3 rounds.&nbsp; The enemy will also be allowed to withdraw/flee, the enemy isn't forced to attack, just target.&nbsp; (edited Barbarian post)Good point, so if we go back to the MMORPG model of combat, NPCs wouldn't be able to do that move at all.&nbsp; NPCs don't charm PCs in MMORPGs.That said, if monsters are going to fight in groups against the PCs and monsters will have roles in combat (defender, striker, controller), then their defenders should be able to &quot;pull&quot; the PCs away from attacking their strikers/controllers.&nbsp; So maybe the answer for the defender is for their pull to take one player option away instead of all player options away?The PCs need to be able to &quot;pull aggro&quot; from monsters who are beating up on their &quot;pasty whites&quot;, so PC defenders will have special abilities to pull aggro.&nbsp; Defenders are the battlefield &quot;sticky&quot; in their role.&nbsp; The rogue will have a special ability to &quot;reduce hate&quot; or push aggro away from them.&nbsp; The key is when they get this and how powerful it is.I can't possibly map out all the talent trees or even some of them before the first game session (in 5 days).&nbsp; My personal goal isn't to convert the whole system.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="BradfordFerguson, post: 4020964, member: 20048"] Ungeheuer, OK, I see that giving it to the barbarian AT WILL, is a problem. Thanks for the feedback. If I keep it for the first game session, I will likely change it to USE: 1/encounter and also define a duration: 3 rounds. The enemy will also be allowed to withdraw/flee, the enemy isn't forced to attack, just target. (edited Barbarian post) Good point, so if we go back to the MMORPG model of combat, NPCs wouldn't be able to do that move at all. NPCs don't charm PCs in MMORPGs. That said, if monsters are going to fight in groups against the PCs and monsters will have roles in combat (defender, striker, controller), then their defenders should be able to "pull" the PCs away from attacking their strikers/controllers. So maybe the answer for the defender is for their pull to take one player option away instead of all player options away? The PCs need to be able to "pull aggro" from monsters who are beating up on their "pasty whites", so PC defenders will have special abilities to pull aggro. Defenders are the battlefield "sticky" in their role. The rogue will have a special ability to "reduce hate" or push aggro away from them. The key is when they get this and how powerful it is. I can't possibly map out all the talent trees or even some of them before the first game session (in 5 days). My personal goal isn't to convert the whole system. [/QUOTE]

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