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<blockquote data-quote="Levistus's_Leviathan" data-source="post: 8317786" data-attributes="member: 7023887"><p>I honestly do not care and am not willing to jump down that rabbit hole with you. Hitler was evil. His actions were and still are evil. Any reasonable person would think so, and whether or not there was or could be a society that considers his actions to not be evil is irrelevant. We judge actions by our own standards, not by the standards of a "what-if society".</p><p></p><p>(I also believe that you just committed the Fallacy Fallacy, or some variation of it, by saying "this is a logical fallacy" without explaining what part of it is a fallacy and actually addressing it.)</p><p></p><p>Again, I don't care what you're trying to spin this as, you're wrong. If we ignore the past and just say "they're dead, don't talk any bad about them", we are doomed to repeat their mistakes. I don't care if "every human being" is "condemned" into "some evil category", because humans are inherently flawed, and so in order for a society to attempt to become less and less flawed, we have to acknowledge the flaws as being bad and work to avoid them, instead of saying "nope! Can't talk about it! They're dead, what's done is done, and we cannot criticize a dead person for any reason whatsoever". </p><p></p><p>Good. That's awesome. If people in the future have progressed so much that they see my actions as evil in comparison to their actions, I will gladly celebrate that (you know, if I can . . .). If I get seen as "just a product of their time", I enthusiastically accept that now and am wholeheartedly on-board with never idolizing anyone for any reason. People are flawed, it's a part of our nature, so if society can move past the restraints of the past to accept higher standards, I see that as a good thing. </p><p></p><p>Removed an especially tone-deaf word. If I have to explain why comparing criticizing dead people to the horrific murder of black people is <strong>absolutely not okay</strong>, we're not going to get anywhere. </p><p></p><p>Yep! Exactly. You're starting to get it now. We're all flawed, and the only way for society to progress is for us to admit that, and not have some weird taboo against admitting the flaws of people that no longer have a beating heart. Like I said above, I have absolutely no problem with that. </p><p></p><p>That's not at all what you were saying, though, and it's not what I was addressing. I won't get pulled into that, because I honestly don't care and did not come into this thread to address that. I came in to address the extremely incorrect "don't judge dead people" statement that you made. </p><p></p><p>I have absolutely no idea how this has literally anything to do with what my post was about. Like I said, my post was not made to bash Gary Gygax, it was made to call out your fallacious statement. My post was most definitely "reasoned debate", and it got plenty more likes that your post. Whether or not my stance is popular or yours is unpopular does not mean one is more correct than the other or that any of our stances are being silenced, it simply says that people in this thread seem to agree more with me and than you. </p><p></p><p>This is a red herring, as it has absolutely nothing to do with my post.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Levistus's_Leviathan, post: 8317786, member: 7023887"] I honestly do not care and am not willing to jump down that rabbit hole with you. Hitler was evil. His actions were and still are evil. Any reasonable person would think so, and whether or not there was or could be a society that considers his actions to not be evil is irrelevant. We judge actions by our own standards, not by the standards of a "what-if society". (I also believe that you just committed the Fallacy Fallacy, or some variation of it, by saying "this is a logical fallacy" without explaining what part of it is a fallacy and actually addressing it.) Again, I don't care what you're trying to spin this as, you're wrong. If we ignore the past and just say "they're dead, don't talk any bad about them", we are doomed to repeat their mistakes. I don't care if "every human being" is "condemned" into "some evil category", because humans are inherently flawed, and so in order for a society to attempt to become less and less flawed, we have to acknowledge the flaws as being bad and work to avoid them, instead of saying "nope! Can't talk about it! They're dead, what's done is done, and we cannot criticize a dead person for any reason whatsoever". Good. That's awesome. If people in the future have progressed so much that they see my actions as evil in comparison to their actions, I will gladly celebrate that (you know, if I can . . .). If I get seen as "just a product of their time", I enthusiastically accept that now and am wholeheartedly on-board with never idolizing anyone for any reason. People are flawed, it's a part of our nature, so if society can move past the restraints of the past to accept higher standards, I see that as a good thing. Removed an especially tone-deaf word. If I have to explain why comparing criticizing dead people to the horrific murder of black people is [B]absolutely not okay[/B], we're not going to get anywhere. Yep! Exactly. You're starting to get it now. We're all flawed, and the only way for society to progress is for us to admit that, and not have some weird taboo against admitting the flaws of people that no longer have a beating heart. Like I said above, I have absolutely no problem with that. That's not at all what you were saying, though, and it's not what I was addressing. I won't get pulled into that, because I honestly don't care and did not come into this thread to address that. I came in to address the extremely incorrect "don't judge dead people" statement that you made. I have absolutely no idea how this has literally anything to do with what my post was about. Like I said, my post was not made to bash Gary Gygax, it was made to call out your fallacious statement. My post was most definitely "reasoned debate", and it got plenty more likes that your post. Whether or not my stance is popular or yours is unpopular does not mean one is more correct than the other or that any of our stances are being silenced, it simply says that people in this thread seem to agree more with me and than you. This is a red herring, as it has absolutely nothing to do with my post. [/QUOTE]
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