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TSR (2) Confirms TSR (3)'s Acquisition of Trademark (Updated!)
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<blockquote data-quote="Libertad" data-source="post: 8318721" data-attributes="member: 6750502"><p>The argument about "in-character ethics" kind of falls flat when you then say that "nits make lice" is an observable fact, and then go on to use a real-world example of an indigenous American soldier "dispassionately killing an enemy squaw."</p><p></p><p>Given that the person who said "nits make lice" was saying it in context of justifying genocide and killing civilians and children, that doesn't put Gygax in a good look.</p><p></p><p>Talking about how morality works in a fantasy world is all well and good, but it becomes a less convincing argument when you start bringing in real-world examples uttered by those who contributed to some of the darkest moments in American history.</p><p></p><p>And in regards to an earlier post about being born in the 1930s, that very same decade saw a significant upswelling of sympathy for indigenous Americans and contributed to the giving back of many traditional lands to various tribes. And 40 years later in the 1970s, the American Indian Movement was in the news, and notable actor Marlon Brando boycotted the Oscars to protest Hollywood's treatment and portrayal of said groups.</p><p></p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://courses.lumenlearning.com/amgovernment/chapter/civil-rights-for-indigenous-groups-native-americans-alaskans-and-hawaiians/[/URL]</p><p>[URL unfurl="true"]https://www.newsweek.com/marlon-brando-boycotted-oscars-native-americans-418545[/URL]</p><p></p><p>Gygax had plenty of decades and exposure to evolve on his views. Age is not necessarily an excuse; even senior citizens can become more progressive and accepting of groups that for earlier decades in their lives never crossed their minds.</p><p></p><p>I don't know if Gary Gygax changed his views on the subject between then and the last 3 years of his life. I'd be happy to find out if he renounced his racist and sexist viewpoints held at the time. But it was a statement that many took issue with, and seeing it said by a beloved figure in the tabletop hobby was very demoralizing and disconcerting to many gamers.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Libertad, post: 8318721, member: 6750502"] The argument about "in-character ethics" kind of falls flat when you then say that "nits make lice" is an observable fact, and then go on to use a real-world example of an indigenous American soldier "dispassionately killing an enemy squaw." Given that the person who said "nits make lice" was saying it in context of justifying genocide and killing civilians and children, that doesn't put Gygax in a good look. Talking about how morality works in a fantasy world is all well and good, but it becomes a less convincing argument when you start bringing in real-world examples uttered by those who contributed to some of the darkest moments in American history. And in regards to an earlier post about being born in the 1930s, that very same decade saw a significant upswelling of sympathy for indigenous Americans and contributed to the giving back of many traditional lands to various tribes. And 40 years later in the 1970s, the American Indian Movement was in the news, and notable actor Marlon Brando boycotted the Oscars to protest Hollywood's treatment and portrayal of said groups. [URL unfurl="true"]https://courses.lumenlearning.com/amgovernment/chapter/civil-rights-for-indigenous-groups-native-americans-alaskans-and-hawaiians/[/URL] [URL unfurl="true"]https://www.newsweek.com/marlon-brando-boycotted-oscars-native-americans-418545[/URL] Gygax had plenty of decades and exposure to evolve on his views. Age is not necessarily an excuse; even senior citizens can become more progressive and accepting of groups that for earlier decades in their lives never crossed their minds. I don't know if Gary Gygax changed his views on the subject between then and the last 3 years of his life. I'd be happy to find out if he renounced his racist and sexist viewpoints held at the time. But it was a statement that many took issue with, and seeing it said by a beloved figure in the tabletop hobby was very demoralizing and disconcerting to many gamers. [/QUOTE]
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