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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 8696528" data-attributes="member: 82106"><p>I think your basically right in terms of most people didn't really need or 'get' PS or SJ, but DS is a different story. It clearly falls into the 'swords and sandals' kind of fiction category and is pretty easily identifiable with anyone who read Gor, Conan, Barsoom, etc. back in the day (or Fred Saberhagen stuff). D&D cites those sources quite clearly and thus I don't think DS was much of a departure at all. Beyond that it was pushed as being kind of a more hard-core setting where the PCs would be tough, but survival would be HARD by default. That appealed a lot to many D&D players, a sort of slightly reformulated meat grinder with more story and slightly more heroic themes. PS and SJ by contrast are just 'out there', they don't relate to ANY fiction I know of at all, really.</p></blockquote><p></p>