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<blockquote data-quote="delericho" data-source="post: 5986590" data-attributes="member: 22424"><p>When I ran this adventure, my players decided to abandon their explorations <em>just before</em> encountering the dragon. I was gutted!</p><p></p><p>This is an adventure that I found plays better than it reads - on a readthrough, it seemed like a fairly standard dungeon crawl, nothing much to see here. But when playing, yeah, it was a lot of fun. The only thing I think it needs is a bit of a stronger hook, to keep the PCs going to the end!</p><p></p><p>However, "Forge of Fury" did have one incredibly unfortunate legacy, due to the infamous Roper encounter. As we know, per the 3e DMG, it is recommended to include a small percentage of "overwhelming" encounters. FoF actually applied this advice, and so included an extremely deadly encounter with a Roper. There's even a sidebar in the adventure specifically noting that this was what they were doing!</p><p></p><p>But after playing the adventure, there was a <em>huge</em> outcry from players, that it somehow wasn't "fair" to include this encounter in the adventure. And, as a result of this, WotC have almost never again done something like that - encounters have now been much more level-appropriate. And their published adventures have been the poorer for it.</p><p></p><p>A real shame, not least since FoF was the second official 3e module published (outside of Dungeon, of course).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="delericho, post: 5986590, member: 22424"] When I ran this adventure, my players decided to abandon their explorations [i]just before[/i] encountering the dragon. I was gutted! This is an adventure that I found plays better than it reads - on a readthrough, it seemed like a fairly standard dungeon crawl, nothing much to see here. But when playing, yeah, it was a lot of fun. The only thing I think it needs is a bit of a stronger hook, to keep the PCs going to the end! However, "Forge of Fury" did have one incredibly unfortunate legacy, due to the infamous Roper encounter. As we know, per the 3e DMG, it is recommended to include a small percentage of "overwhelming" encounters. FoF actually applied this advice, and so included an extremely deadly encounter with a Roper. There's even a sidebar in the adventure specifically noting that this was what they were doing! But after playing the adventure, there was a [i]huge[/i] outcry from players, that it somehow wasn't "fair" to include this encounter in the adventure. And, as a result of this, WotC have almost never again done something like that - encounters have now been much more level-appropriate. And their published adventures have been the poorer for it. A real shame, not least since FoF was the second official 3e module published (outside of Dungeon, of course). [/QUOTE]
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