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<blockquote data-quote="Snarf Zagyg" data-source="post: 8481100" data-attributes="member: 7023840"><p>But I need you to think on the following- that's a great analogy, when you understand how a tool works, right? Do you know, I mean ... do you really really know how facebook works? Not even the stuff that they're hiding- just the stuff that you probably aren't even thinking about? Let's run down a few things-</p><p></p><p>1. You understand that what you see on FB is different than what everyone else see, right? And you have no idea the ways in which it is different, because it's generated algorithmically? And that this portrayal of how the world "really is" will have subtle effects on you that you aren't even aware of?</p><p></p><p>2. Did you know that FB not only creates full profiles of you and everyone that uses FB in order to model your behavior, but also "shadow profiles" of people not on facebook? That's right- they are constantly scouring your posts and your photos to try and glean information about people (like me) that aren't on facebook; quite literally, your existence on facebook is selling out people that deliberately avoid it.</p><p></p><p>3. Facebook gives you a distorted view of the world; not just the recent well-publicized issues of causing body dysmorphia for teen girls (instagram), but causing depression in general since you are generally presented with peoples' posts that attempt to portray idealized versions of themselves, and not the reality as you would see it if you were actually present. Umbran talks about the connection of other people ... but it's actually the opposite. Just the dopamine rush of checking facebook, and the worry that your life isn't as great as what other people present.</p><p></p><p>4. Do you use facebook messenger? You're aware, right, that all of that is being checked and then used by facebook? Including photos and links? Imagine if someone said, "Hey, all your phone calls are going to be recorded and monetized by a private company. Oh, you can trust them!" </p><p></p><p>5. And all that data- it's not just the Facebooks, and the advertising, and the Cambridge Analyticas of the world that know everything about you. Facebook has acknowledged selling off that data to all sorts of shady places ... and if you think it hasn't been hacked ... well, it has been.</p><p></p><p>6. How about the genocide? Social media is great for organizing people ... especially if you want them to feel angry about minorities in the county. Like the Rohingya. That's surprising, except ...</p><p></p><p>7. Facebook has known that its algorithms promote divisive and false content, but <em>because it drives engagement and profits</em>, it decided to go hard into that. In other words, facebook literally prioritized the worst of the worst.</p><p></p><p>So yes, it is a tool! But most people are discounting not just how bad it is for the world, and how much damage it does ... but they also don't realize how much it influences them in ways that they don't know.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>I think that's great- but I also think that this would have been the case <em>without Facebook</em>. I have seen too many people radicalized ... and trust me, I don't think any of them started by saying, "Hey, I'd like to look at some cute cat videos and keep up with some friends, and also? I'd like to totally believe in crazy conspiracies and drive my in-real-life friends away!"</p><p></p><p>If people knew how it was influencing them ... then it wouldn't work. That's the beauty of it. It's just giving people more and more of what they think they want.</p><p></p><p>...and the thing to reflect on is not the obvious ways other people have been changed, but rather- what has this done to me? Would I even know?</p><p></p><p></p><p>To me, what's crazy is the people that continue to defend facebook. All of this ... <em>all of this</em> is out there, but people can't quit it. Almost like that's exactly by design. Weird, huh?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Snarf Zagyg, post: 8481100, member: 7023840"] But I need you to think on the following- that's a great analogy, when you understand how a tool works, right? Do you know, I mean ... do you really really know how facebook works? Not even the stuff that they're hiding- just the stuff that you probably aren't even thinking about? Let's run down a few things- 1. You understand that what you see on FB is different than what everyone else see, right? And you have no idea the ways in which it is different, because it's generated algorithmically? And that this portrayal of how the world "really is" will have subtle effects on you that you aren't even aware of? 2. Did you know that FB not only creates full profiles of you and everyone that uses FB in order to model your behavior, but also "shadow profiles" of people not on facebook? That's right- they are constantly scouring your posts and your photos to try and glean information about people (like me) that aren't on facebook; quite literally, your existence on facebook is selling out people that deliberately avoid it. 3. Facebook gives you a distorted view of the world; not just the recent well-publicized issues of causing body dysmorphia for teen girls (instagram), but causing depression in general since you are generally presented with peoples' posts that attempt to portray idealized versions of themselves, and not the reality as you would see it if you were actually present. Umbran talks about the connection of other people ... but it's actually the opposite. Just the dopamine rush of checking facebook, and the worry that your life isn't as great as what other people present. 4. Do you use facebook messenger? You're aware, right, that all of that is being checked and then used by facebook? Including photos and links? Imagine if someone said, "Hey, all your phone calls are going to be recorded and monetized by a private company. Oh, you can trust them!" 5. And all that data- it's not just the Facebooks, and the advertising, and the Cambridge Analyticas of the world that know everything about you. Facebook has acknowledged selling off that data to all sorts of shady places ... and if you think it hasn't been hacked ... well, it has been. 6. How about the genocide? Social media is great for organizing people ... especially if you want them to feel angry about minorities in the county. Like the Rohingya. That's surprising, except ... 7. Facebook has known that its algorithms promote divisive and false content, but [I]because it drives engagement and profits[/I], it decided to go hard into that. In other words, facebook literally prioritized the worst of the worst. So yes, it is a tool! But most people are discounting not just how bad it is for the world, and how much damage it does ... but they also don't realize how much it influences them in ways that they don't know. I think that's great- but I also think that this would have been the case [I]without Facebook[/I]. I have seen too many people radicalized ... and trust me, I don't think any of them started by saying, "Hey, I'd like to look at some cute cat videos and keep up with some friends, and also? I'd like to totally believe in crazy conspiracies and drive my in-real-life friends away!" If people knew how it was influencing them ... then it wouldn't work. That's the beauty of it. It's just giving people more and more of what they think they want. ...and the thing to reflect on is not the obvious ways other people have been changed, but rather- what has this done to me? Would I even know? To me, what's crazy is the people that continue to defend facebook. All of this ... [I]all of this[/I] is out there, but people can't quit it. Almost like that's exactly by design. Weird, huh? [/QUOTE]
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