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TSR3.5 Launches IndieGogo Campaign to "Stop" WotC
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<blockquote data-quote="Sacrosanct" data-source="post: 8501180" data-attributes="member: 15700"><p>Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier. Even if you assume that they are right (they aren't), and OBS is the one selling products with those marks and not WoTC, then nuTSR still doesn't get to claim them, because by their own logic, OBS has been selling them and should have rights. They have a lot of contradictory arguments in their legal filing that become extra problematic as soon as anyone shows the court the comments LaNasa has been making that directly conflict with what he's arguing in the legal filing (like point 15). I wonder if their lawyer is even aware of his other comments, Indiegogo campaign, etc? </p><p></p><p>Their argument essentially is boiling down to:</p><p></p><p>Justin: We never knew WotC was selling products with those marks, so we have rights to them</p><p>Everyone else: What about your comments complaining about the disclaimers on products they are selling? The disclaimers that only show up on those products that have those marks you are saying you weren't aware are for sale? How can you claim in the legal filing that you weren't aware of them while at the same time complaining about them the whole time?</p><p>Justin: We asked WotC for proof and they never gave any.</p><p>Everyone else: By your own filing, you said they provided you two links to the website that is currently selling them. So they <em>did </em>give you proof.</p><p>Justin: Those links don't count, because it was OBS, not Wotc selling them.</p><p>Everyone else: OK, so let's ignore how you said they never gave you proof <em>while at the same time</em> saying they gave you proof, and let's ignore how you said you weren't aware of them being used/sold <em>while at the same time</em> complaining about the disclaimer on them <em>while they were being sold. </em>Putting all of that aside, if it's OBS selling them, wouldn't they have the rights to them?</p><p>Justin: ...creates another LLC..</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sacrosanct, post: 8501180, member: 15700"] Yeah, that's what I was talking about earlier. Even if you assume that they are right (they aren't), and OBS is the one selling products with those marks and not WoTC, then nuTSR still doesn't get to claim them, because by their own logic, OBS has been selling them and should have rights. They have a lot of contradictory arguments in their legal filing that become extra problematic as soon as anyone shows the court the comments LaNasa has been making that directly conflict with what he's arguing in the legal filing (like point 15). I wonder if their lawyer is even aware of his other comments, Indiegogo campaign, etc? Their argument essentially is boiling down to: Justin: We never knew WotC was selling products with those marks, so we have rights to them Everyone else: What about your comments complaining about the disclaimers on products they are selling? The disclaimers that only show up on those products that have those marks you are saying you weren't aware are for sale? How can you claim in the legal filing that you weren't aware of them while at the same time complaining about them the whole time? Justin: We asked WotC for proof and they never gave any. Everyone else: By your own filing, you said they provided you two links to the website that is currently selling them. So they [I]did [/I]give you proof. Justin: Those links don't count, because it was OBS, not Wotc selling them. Everyone else: OK, so let's ignore how you said they never gave you proof [I]while at the same time[/I] saying they gave you proof, and let's ignore how you said you weren't aware of them being used/sold [I]while at the same time[/I] complaining about the disclaimer on them [I]while they were being sold. [/I]Putting all of that aside, if it's OBS selling them, wouldn't they have the rights to them? Justin: ...creates another LLC.. [/QUOTE]
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