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<blockquote data-quote="Essafah" data-source="post: 8326973" data-attributes="member: 16472"><p>His Christian value tweet I saw a screen shot of. If I recall correctly, was he not saying he was raised with Christian values and thus he was taught not to discriminate against anyone for various reasons?</p><p> </p><p>If someone says they don't discriminate against people why do they have to list every possible demographic. If I say, I don't discriminate against people due to race, gender, religion, etc. and someone says, "Well you didn't say you you don't discriminate against married people or against people with X disease" I would honestly think that person is either a) stupid or b) looking for confrontation for whatever reason.</p><p></p><p>On his thing with Rob Kuntz yeah it seems like he (Ernie) got sucked into a political conspiracy group....one that has become more common. I am saying Ernie said something wrong but I think he could redeem himself and that what he said in the interview wasn't the issue so much as what his partner and associate said after on social media that keep fueling the issue. To be clear, I think it is his partner more than him.</p><p> </p><p>On the being out of my depth. Yeah let me address that #$ statement right here and now. Out of my depth on what? Discrimination? Yeah PLEASE tell me about that. I'll wait. Actually no I won't. Listen whomever you are I was probably studying social issues before you were conceived. There is a Black gay writer by the name of James Earl Hardy. He writes gay fiction specifically Black gay fiction. I read his book in undergrad for a study. Mr. Hardy in an interview talked about the discrimination he has faced in society as both a Black man and a Gay Man. He said unequivocally, that most of his discrimination however came from being Black. The cops never stopped him for being Gay. Never one ever refused him service for him being a homosexual it was for his race. I do not have the option of being an invisible minority.</p><p></p><p>I say that not to try to out victim someone (I don't feel like a victim or play the victim card) BUT what I am saying matters in terms of transgender in gaming because: 1. there is no way that is going to come up during a game of DnD unless someone brings it up to make it an issue. Yes you (for example) can play a character who is a transgendered woman or whatever but there is no way for a DM to know that unless YOU tell them. Unless YOU make it an issue. Even back in previous editions were sex was listed if Transwomen are women (and they are) and you put female or woman down on that character sheet the only way trans is going to come up is if YOU try to push some point to interject something into the game. Now, I may make a character that is Black, Asian, or whatever but I am not DEMANDING that the DM say, "Hey! SEE MY CHARACTER IS BLACK" . The race of the PC other than whether they are non-human is inconsequential to the my character, the DM, and the game. Gender (Whether Cis or whatever) is the same way. Period. I am all for WOTC's direction of showing different sexual orientation in the game (like in Ravenloft), showing more women in the game, increasing diversity in hiring in gaming but there is a difference in saying something exist and should be acknowledged and then demanding a social issue be addressed in the game.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Essafah, post: 8326973, member: 16472"] His Christian value tweet I saw a screen shot of. If I recall correctly, was he not saying he was raised with Christian values and thus he was taught not to discriminate against anyone for various reasons? If someone says they don't discriminate against people why do they have to list every possible demographic. If I say, I don't discriminate against people due to race, gender, religion, etc. and someone says, "Well you didn't say you you don't discriminate against married people or against people with X disease" I would honestly think that person is either a) stupid or b) looking for confrontation for whatever reason. On his thing with Rob Kuntz yeah it seems like he (Ernie) got sucked into a political conspiracy group....one that has become more common. I am saying Ernie said something wrong but I think he could redeem himself and that what he said in the interview wasn't the issue so much as what his partner and associate said after on social media that keep fueling the issue. To be clear, I think it is his partner more than him. On the being out of my depth. Yeah let me address that #$ statement right here and now. Out of my depth on what? Discrimination? Yeah PLEASE tell me about that. I'll wait. Actually no I won't. Listen whomever you are I was probably studying social issues before you were conceived. There is a Black gay writer by the name of James Earl Hardy. He writes gay fiction specifically Black gay fiction. I read his book in undergrad for a study. Mr. Hardy in an interview talked about the discrimination he has faced in society as both a Black man and a Gay Man. He said unequivocally, that most of his discrimination however came from being Black. The cops never stopped him for being Gay. Never one ever refused him service for him being a homosexual it was for his race. I do not have the option of being an invisible minority. I say that not to try to out victim someone (I don't feel like a victim or play the victim card) BUT what I am saying matters in terms of transgender in gaming because: 1. there is no way that is going to come up during a game of DnD unless someone brings it up to make it an issue. Yes you (for example) can play a character who is a transgendered woman or whatever but there is no way for a DM to know that unless YOU tell them. Unless YOU make it an issue. Even back in previous editions were sex was listed if Transwomen are women (and they are) and you put female or woman down on that character sheet the only way trans is going to come up is if YOU try to push some point to interject something into the game. Now, I may make a character that is Black, Asian, or whatever but I am not DEMANDING that the DM say, "Hey! SEE MY CHARACTER IS BLACK" . The race of the PC other than whether they are non-human is inconsequential to the my character, the DM, and the game. Gender (Whether Cis or whatever) is the same way. Period. I am all for WOTC's direction of showing different sexual orientation in the game (like in Ravenloft), showing more women in the game, increasing diversity in hiring in gaming but there is a difference in saying something exist and should be acknowledged and then demanding a social issue be addressed in the game. [/QUOTE]
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