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<blockquote data-quote="Essafah" data-source="post: 8327268" data-attributes="member: 16472"><p>Okay, yes a person can do any of the above but for the record in all the above that player is choosing to make the game/pc be about a particular real world issue. That person should also not be offended by the acknowledgment that they have done so. </p><p></p><p>Before the knee jerk reactionism (by whomever) kicks in let me be clear, I am not saying a DM should disallow any of this at the table. What I am saying is that the particular examples you give above would seem to be a unique demand that a specific group be the focus of a game and be acknowledged in any say that quite frankly I just don't see other groups demanding to be acknowledged. </p><p></p><p>Again to use race ethnicity as comparison I could in DnD make a PC who left his homeland because Black people were discriminated against and second class citizen in a particular society. I could have a prophecy that a Black man specifically has to save the world and all of the above that you named. I have never done that. In my 30+ years of gaming with other Blacks, Asians, Latinos, etc. I can honestly say have never seen any the said races create a character and that had their real world human race somehow be the focus of the DnD game or that PC. I have played games were non-humans such as half-orcs and half-elves were discriminated against in their home communities and left to adventure for that reason. </p><p></p><p>There are certainly RPGs that cater to specific ideals. For example, there is a game that looks really good called Motherlands that is about what an Afro-based futuristic society would look like if colonialism had not occurred. There is Khi Khanga which is a fantasy setting based on a setting based steeped in pseudo African lore. Hell, Mike Pondsmith who created the Cyberpunk RPG which is set in a setting of the near future has never (in any edition) of the game made the race(s) of the characters in the game or fiction an issue in any edition of the game. I have not seen any Asian gamer want Asian discrimination to be a major focus of the campaigns they ran or a focus for their D&D characters. I am not saying someone can't do the examples you mentioned but I guess I just don't understand the need for someone to take the issues and prejudices they face in real life and then want to role-play that same discrimination or have the problems they face in real life society be a large part of a group campaign or their PC but to each their own. It's whatever peanut butters your jelly so to speak.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Essafah, post: 8327268, member: 16472"] Okay, yes a person can do any of the above but for the record in all the above that player is choosing to make the game/pc be about a particular real world issue. That person should also not be offended by the acknowledgment that they have done so. Before the knee jerk reactionism (by whomever) kicks in let me be clear, I am not saying a DM should disallow any of this at the table. What I am saying is that the particular examples you give above would seem to be a unique demand that a specific group be the focus of a game and be acknowledged in any say that quite frankly I just don't see other groups demanding to be acknowledged. Again to use race ethnicity as comparison I could in DnD make a PC who left his homeland because Black people were discriminated against and second class citizen in a particular society. I could have a prophecy that a Black man specifically has to save the world and all of the above that you named. I have never done that. In my 30+ years of gaming with other Blacks, Asians, Latinos, etc. I can honestly say have never seen any the said races create a character and that had their real world human race somehow be the focus of the DnD game or that PC. I have played games were non-humans such as half-orcs and half-elves were discriminated against in their home communities and left to adventure for that reason. There are certainly RPGs that cater to specific ideals. For example, there is a game that looks really good called Motherlands that is about what an Afro-based futuristic society would look like if colonialism had not occurred. There is Khi Khanga which is a fantasy setting based on a setting based steeped in pseudo African lore. Hell, Mike Pondsmith who created the Cyberpunk RPG which is set in a setting of the near future has never (in any edition) of the game made the race(s) of the characters in the game or fiction an issue in any edition of the game. I have not seen any Asian gamer want Asian discrimination to be a major focus of the campaigns they ran or a focus for their D&D characters. I am not saying someone can't do the examples you mentioned but I guess I just don't understand the need for someone to take the issues and prejudices they face in real life and then want to role-play that same discrimination or have the problems they face in real life society be a large part of a group campaign or their PC but to each their own. It's whatever peanut butters your jelly so to speak. [/QUOTE]
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