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<blockquote data-quote="Faolyn" data-source="post: 8327277" data-attributes="member: 6915329"><p>Um, no. There's nothing so "real world only" about being transgender, or gay, or bi, or ace, or even straight (or black, white, brown), that is purely a real world issue. You can easily have a world where there is no prejudice around being trans, and therefore no issues about it to be brought into the game.</p><p></p><p></p><p>That makes about as much sense as seeing someone who is playing a female character and saying that they're trying to bring real world issues about women into the game. When likely that player just wants to play a female character.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So first you say that there's no reason to bring transgender people into a game. Now you're claiming that any of the above suggestions are a demand for everyone to be focused on the transgender character.</p><p></p><p>Am I to take it that you never have any NPCs with backstories, and/or you don't allow PCs to ever talk about their backstories, because it might drive the focus on that character?</p><p></p><p></p><p>You could, except for one thing: you started this by saying that there would be no reason for a person's sexuality or gender identity would be known. Which is true: you generally can't look at a person and say "yep, they're trans." </p><p></p><p>But you <em>can </em>look at a person and say "yep, that person has really dark/really light/really green skin." </p><p></p><p>That's why I gave you a list of ideas for ways that involve indicating someone is trans. And strangely, none of those ideas would invoke Main Character Syndrome. Leaving home because you've been disowned or exiled or are running away from a bad situation is a common enough PC origin or NPC goal (you <em>do </em>have NPCs that talk about themselves, right?). "I don't like bullies" is a decent reason to be a hero--isn't that Captain America's reasons (at least in the MCU)? I have a character for an upcoming game who is desperately trying to be able to turn into a different shape; it's why he's a transmuter. Seeking a bit of magic or technology is also a common origin or goal. (In his case, he was a dwarf who died and was reincarnated by well-meaning druids into a luma--the pigeonfolk race from the Humblewood 5e book--and is <em>not </em>happy about it.</p><p></p><p></p><p>So, from this, I'm getting that: you can't come up with any ideas for trans characters that don't involve that character suffering from bigotry, because of reasons (seriously, do you only play games where everyone is the same sex or skintone?). And because of that... you don't want to include them trans people at all? </p><p></p><p>Because excluding people who are different than you are so you don't have to deal with their issues has worked out <em>so well </em>in the past.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Faolyn, post: 8327277, member: 6915329"] Um, no. There's nothing so "real world only" about being transgender, or gay, or bi, or ace, or even straight (or black, white, brown), that is purely a real world issue. You can easily have a world where there is no prejudice around being trans, and therefore no issues about it to be brought into the game. That makes about as much sense as seeing someone who is playing a female character and saying that they're trying to bring real world issues about women into the game. When likely that player just wants to play a female character. So first you say that there's no reason to bring transgender people into a game. Now you're claiming that any of the above suggestions are a demand for everyone to be focused on the transgender character. Am I to take it that you never have any NPCs with backstories, and/or you don't allow PCs to ever talk about their backstories, because it might drive the focus on that character? You could, except for one thing: you started this by saying that there would be no reason for a person's sexuality or gender identity would be known. Which is true: you generally can't look at a person and say "yep, they're trans." But you [I]can [/I]look at a person and say "yep, that person has really dark/really light/really green skin." That's why I gave you a list of ideas for ways that involve indicating someone is trans. And strangely, none of those ideas would invoke Main Character Syndrome. Leaving home because you've been disowned or exiled or are running away from a bad situation is a common enough PC origin or NPC goal (you [I]do [/I]have NPCs that talk about themselves, right?). "I don't like bullies" is a decent reason to be a hero--isn't that Captain America's reasons (at least in the MCU)? I have a character for an upcoming game who is desperately trying to be able to turn into a different shape; it's why he's a transmuter. Seeking a bit of magic or technology is also a common origin or goal. (In his case, he was a dwarf who died and was reincarnated by well-meaning druids into a luma--the pigeonfolk race from the Humblewood 5e book--and is [I]not [/I]happy about it. So, from this, I'm getting that: you can't come up with any ideas for trans characters that don't involve that character suffering from bigotry, because of reasons (seriously, do you only play games where everyone is the same sex or skintone?). And because of that... you don't want to include them trans people at all? Because excluding people who are different than you are so you don't have to deal with their issues has worked out [I]so well [/I]in the past. [/QUOTE]
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