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<blockquote data-quote="Abstruse" data-source="post: 8332580" data-attributes="member: 6669048"><p>Okay, caught up. Time to speculate!</p><p></p><p>So if this was caused by legal action from Wizards of the Coast and/or Hasbro, we're not likely to know for sure because that's how this legal stuff tends to go.</p><p></p><p>I agree with Morrus that if WotC Legal sent a standard C&D to LaNasa/Dinehart, they'd be crowing about it, spinning it as proof of how big of a threat they are to the establishment <em>and </em>how they're being relentlessly "bullied" by a company trying to "silence" them. Then they'd set up a GoFundMe for a "Legal Defense Fund" even though there's not a lawsuit because that's where these things typically go.</p><p></p><p>I <em>do </em>think (again, this is pure speculation on my part) that a C&D was involved, but it wasn't just the normal form letter one you typically get. I think they got a Cease & Desist order that clearly and plainly laid out exactly how screwed they are if WotC/Hasbro takes them to court, laying out exactly where they've violated the law and in how many ways. Basically saying "Listen, here is what we're filing with the court on Monday if you don't take these steps immediately."</p><p></p><p>Either way, unless a lawsuit is actually filed, we're not likely to ever know because none of this has to be made public, Wizards of the Coast isn't likely to say, and if LaNasa and/or Dinehart didn't immediately start shouting it from the rooftops, they're not likely to say anything either. Of course, I've also given up on trying to predict what those two will do next because <em>yeesh</em>.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Abstruse, post: 8332580, member: 6669048"] Okay, caught up. Time to speculate! So if this was caused by legal action from Wizards of the Coast and/or Hasbro, we're not likely to know for sure because that's how this legal stuff tends to go. I agree with Morrus that if WotC Legal sent a standard C&D to LaNasa/Dinehart, they'd be crowing about it, spinning it as proof of how big of a threat they are to the establishment [I]and [/I]how they're being relentlessly "bullied" by a company trying to "silence" them. Then they'd set up a GoFundMe for a "Legal Defense Fund" even though there's not a lawsuit because that's where these things typically go. I [I]do [/I]think (again, this is pure speculation on my part) that a C&D was involved, but it wasn't just the normal form letter one you typically get. I think they got a Cease & Desist order that clearly and plainly laid out exactly how screwed they are if WotC/Hasbro takes them to court, laying out exactly where they've violated the law and in how many ways. Basically saying "Listen, here is what we're filing with the court on Monday if you don't take these steps immediately." Either way, unless a lawsuit is actually filed, we're not likely to ever know because none of this has to be made public, Wizards of the Coast isn't likely to say, and if LaNasa and/or Dinehart didn't immediately start shouting it from the rooftops, they're not likely to say anything either. Of course, I've also given up on trying to predict what those two will do next because [I]yeesh[/I]. [/QUOTE]
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