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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TiQuinn" data-source="post: 9746249" data-attributes="member: 4871">I think we were two marines, one teamster, one scientist and one android playing Gradient Descent. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I guess my question is what makes you think you have great stats in that game unless you are actually able to survive and buy additional training, which is not really a guarantee? Like just playing freshly rolled characters for Another Bug Hunt, you get exposed to combat pretty quickly, and at that point, you don't really have tremendous stats. I think at best, you've got stats that may be get into the 40s, and with a skill boost, you maybe have a 50/50 shot of succeeding on rolls.Now, not everyone died. There were two PCs throughout the entirety of Gradient Descent who managed to survive the entire campaign. My first PC died, and my second made it to the end. Another player had 4 PCs just due to some really bad rolls. To me, that's a meat grinder.Edit: We were also using Armor Degradation and Resolve as alternate rules to help survivability.</blockquote>