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<blockquote data-quote="James Gasik" data-source="post: 8956759" data-attributes="member: 6877472">I just wanted to add to this comment; I don't think this is a problem entirely in of itself.&nbsp; Sure, the idea that the game claims you can have an all-martial party and it's AOK, but can be doomed to an ignominious death because some jackhat casts Forecage on them is more than a little obnoxious; sure, hopefully by this point the DM will realize maybe they shouldn't use that spell against the players, or offer them magic items to overcome it if they have no other means, but not all DM's believe their game should be tailored to a given set of PC's.&nbsp; The books really should have a caveat here, like, &quot;you can play with whatever characters you like, but...&quot;.The greater issue isn't that a spellcaster can use a precious high level slot to trivialize an encounter as much as you don't know which encounter will be turned into a turkey shoot.&nbsp; Watching the party obliterate 7 zombies isn't a big deal, fantastic.Watching them steamroll an epic encounter you spent a few hours assembling and then high-fiving each other about how easy that was?&nbsp; That's just plain demoralizing.I wonder if some spells should have a &quot;this does not work against monsters of a CR X higher than the spellcaster&quot;.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="James Gasik, post: 8956759, member: 6877472"] I just wanted to add to this comment; I don't think this is a problem entirely in of itself. Sure, the idea that the game claims you can have an all-martial party and it's AOK, but can be doomed to an ignominious death because some jackhat casts Forecage on them is more than a little obnoxious; sure, hopefully by this point the DM will realize maybe they shouldn't use that spell against the players, or offer them magic items to overcome it if they have no other means, but not all DM's believe their game should be tailored to a given set of PC's. The books really should have a caveat here, like, "you [B]can[/B] play with whatever characters you like, [B]but[/B]...". The greater issue isn't that a spellcaster can use a precious high level slot to trivialize an encounter as much as you don't know [B]which [/B]encounter will be turned into a turkey shoot. Watching the party obliterate 7 zombies isn't a big deal, fantastic. Watching them steamroll an epic encounter you spent a few hours assembling and then high-fiving each other about how easy that was? That's just plain demoralizing. I wonder if some spells should have a "this does not work against monsters of a CR X higher than the spellcaster". [/QUOTE]

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