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<blockquote data-quote="kigmatzomat" data-source="post: 9737096" data-attributes="member: 9254">DMs always need a story goal in mind ( &quot;punish players&quot; should never be the goal) and the goal of the opposition.&nbsp; For tribes of small fry, the goal is survivial.&nbsp; The antithesis of kobold and goblin tactics is &quot;fight to the death&quot;.&nbsp; Traps and such are not to kill invaders (although that's fine), its to allow the tribe to retreat and to convince the attackers to give up and leave them alone. if that fails, for the tribes are supposed to survive, it needs to acquiesce to the PCs in some way.&nbsp;They buy off the party (&quot;here, take the mcguffin!&quot;), they flee, or they declare the PCs to be their new masters (great way to fluster good players).&nbsp; Slavery is better than death.&nbsp; You should have to corner them and reject their groveling to get them to go for a pyrrhic victory, and even then the non-combatants are fleeing.GMs should always plan for small fry to flee or surrender.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="kigmatzomat, post: 9737096, member: 9254"] DMs always need a story goal in mind ( "punish players" should never be the goal) and the goal of the opposition. For tribes of small fry, the goal is survivial. The antithesis of kobold and goblin tactics is "fight to the death". Traps and such are not to kill invaders (although that's fine), its to allow the tribe to retreat and to convince the attackers to give up and leave them alone. if that fails, for the tribes are supposed to survive, it needs to acquiesce to the PCs in some way. They buy off the party ("here, take the mcguffin!"), they flee, or they declare the PCs to be their new masters (great way to fluster good players). Slavery is better than death. You should have to corner them and reject their groveling to get them to go for a pyrrhic victory, and even then the non-combatants are fleeing. GMs should always plan for small fry to flee or surrender. [/QUOTE]

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