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Message: <blockquote data-quote="DemonAtheist" data-source="post: 1432988" data-attributes="member: 17278">the tumble cannot be a 5 step move because it counts as double your move speed, so going five feet would count against your movement 10 feet.  I am fairly sure you could draw a weapon as part of a tumble, because a tumble is just a complicated move actioni dont think the enemy loses dex to ac: if you were tumbling around someone, they would be watching you the whole time.  to make them lose the dex bonus, you have to flank.  tumbling is good for when your ally is attacking someone and you want to be behind them to get the quick flank.just dont go crazy, i just lost my tiefling rogue by failing a tumble check and walking into a sword...that hit a critical...and confirmed...yeah...just dont be stupid</blockquote>