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Message: <blockquote data-quote="borc killer" data-source="post: 1325147" data-attributes="member: 14151">Last post here.  This does not need to be our chat board and this board is about how rules are not how they should be.I am not sure why you think the PC would need to generate momentum... because they would not.  They just pick a direction mentally and they move in that direction.As for how much movement would be eaten up by tumbling is a good question.  I think it is 2 turn in place actions per movement.  So it would look like this:60/2 = 30 total upwards movement.30/2 = 15 total upwards movement with tumble.15-10 = 5 total upwards movement with tumble + 2 turn in place actions60x2 = 120 total downward movement.120/2 = 60 total downward movement with tumble.60-10 = 50 total downward movement with tumble + 2 turn in place actions.60x0 = 60 total lateral movement.60/2 = 30 total lateral movement with tumble.30-10 = 20 total lateral movement with tumble + 2 turn in place actionsAs for the spell providing the knowledge of how to do it… flying is drastically different than walking… yet you can do it… with magic.As for the tracking comparison… there are spells that can give the ranger the Scent special ability (and feats too as i recall) and then he would be able to track it… with in the limitations of the scent ability of course.  That is what magic does.  It makes things possible.I will talk with your more about it in RL Broc.  If anyone else has anything to add please feel free!Thanks guys!Borc Killer</blockquote>

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