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<blockquote data-quote="Water Bob" data-source="post: 5550682" data-attributes="member: 92305">I said that D&amp;D has a Tolkien-esque universe because that's where D&amp;D's roots lay.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Absolutley agree.&nbsp; Especially with the d20 (3.0 and 3.5) system.&nbsp; It can be grim and gritty or super heroric.&nbsp; Simulationist or abstract.&nbsp; The system is very flexible for different types of play.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Not sure I agree with you here.&nbsp; I do think there is an implied setting with D&amp;D, and it is Tolkien-esque.&nbsp; Different races.&nbsp; Serious Elves.&nbsp; Grumpy Dwarves.&nbsp; Light-hearted Halflings.&nbsp; Goblins and Orcs.&nbsp; Mages.&nbsp;The &quot;roots&quot; of D&amp;D are very much Tolkien-esque.&nbsp; If you want to play &quot;Braveheart&quot; or &quot;Conan&quot; or &quot;Elric&quot; or &quot;Fafhrd &amp; The Grey Mouser&quot;, you've got to make some adjustments.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;Just FYI, the Conan game has an entire supplement (that Mongoose released for free!) that focuses on nothing but a politically-based game.&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;I don't think that's necessary.&nbsp; I'm already thinking of the players encountering some naked Amazons, or maybe some savage backwards Picts that are masters of the tumble.&nbsp; They use spears that are designed to be used with the Tumble, and they wear nothing but a cloth over their groins held by a hemp rope at their waists.&nbsp;My &quot;problem&quot; with Tumble is that it seems to be a bit &quot;specialized&quot; when most of the skills are quite broad.&nbsp;I like opening up things for discussion and seeing what others say, too.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Water Bob, post: 5550682, member: 92305"] I said that D&D has a Tolkien-esque universe because that's where D&D's roots lay. Absolutley agree. Especially with the d20 (3.0 and 3.5) system. It can be grim and gritty or super heroric. Simulationist or abstract. The system is very flexible for different types of play. Not sure I agree with you here. I do think there is an implied setting with D&D, and it is Tolkien-esque. Different races. Serious Elves. Grumpy Dwarves. Light-hearted Halflings. Goblins and Orcs. Mages. The "roots" of D&D are very much Tolkien-esque. If you want to play "Braveheart" or "Conan" or "Elric" or "Fafhrd & The Grey Mouser", you've got to make some adjustments. Just FYI, the Conan game has an entire supplement (that Mongoose released for free!) that focuses on nothing but a politically-based game. I don't think that's necessary. I'm already thinking of the players encountering some naked Amazons, or maybe some savage backwards Picts that are masters of the tumble. They use spears that are designed to be used with the Tumble, and they wear nothing but a cloth over their groins held by a hemp rope at their waists. My "problem" with Tumble is that it seems to be a bit "specialized" when most of the skills are quite broad. I like opening up things for discussion and seeing what others say, too. [/QUOTE]

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