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Message: <blockquote data-quote="WHW4" data-source="post: 5558354" data-attributes="member: 63382">Hilarious. Speaking of minutia, I remember playing a post-apocalyptic Modern game where the DM made us scrounge for every last drop of gasoline. The idea itself was cool; execution? Not so much. The game devolved into an endless series of roll after roll after roll. After a while the novelty wore off and a deep seated hatred of scrounging for resources had taken root in the group. We have not played it sense, and when we saw the Adventurer's Kit in the 3.5 PHB2 (and later in 4th edition) we all let up a cheer. Sometimes it can be fun to plan out an expedition and making sure the group has specialized gear, but there's a point where it stops being fun and become work. I'm sure that point is reached at different times for different groups.More on topic, I kind of envision the Kirk-roll more than the flippity-flippity-hop-hop-stickit! style of tumbling. Makes more tactical sense to me. Why flail your arms around unless you're just aching to get them chopped off?</blockquote>