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<blockquote data-quote="Nezkrul" data-source="post: 6182891" data-attributes="member: 6682154"><p>in order to use versatile spellcaster to cast a 9th level spell, one must first KNOW (because that is what the feat states, and what KNOW means is it must be recorded in your spell book from making the spellcraft check to learn it or from leveling up; or be a spell known) the spell to trade slots up for. The feat doesn't say what you interpret it to say. You are breaking the feat up and taking it out of context. It only does exactly what it says it does; sort of like how Monkey Grip doesn't stack with Powerful Build - in your interpretation, Versatile Spellcaster builds on itself to allow ridiculousness in the way many people think Monkey Grip allows a Goliath to wield a Huge sized weapon with no penalty. And I'm pretty sure you CAN'T know a 9th level spell at 1st level.</p><p></p><p>also, what I find amusing is that your first level grey elf domain generalist somehow has over 40,000 gold pieces to just go and buy all those neat magic items that let him go first, before you even get to play him.</p><p></p><p>as well, your grasp on action economy is questionable. If you use an immediate action to cast nerveskitter, you can't, I repeat, CAN'T cast a swift or immediate action spell on your next turn. So, again, how does nerveskitter help you other than winning initiative that gives you a turn in which you CAN'T cast celerity? Oh and Third Eye clarity takes a, guess what, IMMEDIATE action (mental) to use, so you CAN'T use it on the same turn you cast Celerity, IMAGINE THAT?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nezkrul, post: 6182891, member: 6682154"] in order to use versatile spellcaster to cast a 9th level spell, one must first KNOW (because that is what the feat states, and what KNOW means is it must be recorded in your spell book from making the spellcraft check to learn it or from leveling up; or be a spell known) the spell to trade slots up for. The feat doesn't say what you interpret it to say. You are breaking the feat up and taking it out of context. It only does exactly what it says it does; sort of like how Monkey Grip doesn't stack with Powerful Build - in your interpretation, Versatile Spellcaster builds on itself to allow ridiculousness in the way many people think Monkey Grip allows a Goliath to wield a Huge sized weapon with no penalty. And I'm pretty sure you CAN'T know a 9th level spell at 1st level. also, what I find amusing is that your first level grey elf domain generalist somehow has over 40,000 gold pieces to just go and buy all those neat magic items that let him go first, before you even get to play him. as well, your grasp on action economy is questionable. If you use an immediate action to cast nerveskitter, you can't, I repeat, CAN'T cast a swift or immediate action spell on your next turn. So, again, how does nerveskitter help you other than winning initiative that gives you a turn in which you CAN'T cast celerity? Oh and Third Eye clarity takes a, guess what, IMMEDIATE action (mental) to use, so you CAN'T use it on the same turn you cast Celerity, IMAGINE THAT? [/QUOTE]
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