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<blockquote data-quote="StreamOfTheSky" data-source="post: 5701451" data-attributes="member: 35909">And it's actually worse than just factoring in BAB.&nbsp; It's also strength (and dex, but that's more ot be expected).&nbsp; And deflection.&nbsp; And insight.&nbsp; And luck.&nbsp; And any other thing you can find that adds to touch AC.&nbsp; All sorts of things that make sense making it more difficult to say...grab someone, or sweep their leg, or push them back.&nbsp; But make no sense whatsoever for a check where you're trying to avoid contact with the person!Not that thinking of it as flipping and rolling around is bad-wrong-fun (I finally got to use that stupid phrase, go me!), either.&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I personally like to have combat acrobats doing crazy awesome wire-fu stunts.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="StreamOfTheSky, post: 5701451, member: 35909"] And it's actually worse than just factoring in BAB. It's also strength (and dex, but that's more ot be expected). And deflection. And insight. And luck. And any other thing you can find that adds to touch AC. All sorts of things that make sense making it more difficult to say...grab someone, or sweep their leg, or push them back. But make no sense whatsoever for a check where you're [i]trying[/i] to avoid contact with the person! Not that thinking of it as flipping and rolling around is bad-wrong-fun (I finally got to use that stupid phrase, go me!), either. :) I personally like to have combat acrobats doing crazy awesome wire-fu stunts. [/QUOTE]

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