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Turn Undead per Day and Low Charisma?
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<blockquote data-quote="mvincent" data-source="post: 3834103" data-attributes="member: 27034"><p>Correct. From the 3.5 FAQ:</p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">"a change to the key ability score indeed affects the daily limit—</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">in the example above, the cleric would gain 2 additional</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">turn/rebuke attempts per day—but these aren’t just “free” uses.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">Here’s why:</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">Assume the cleric above has a normal Charisma score of</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">12, granting him 4 turn attempts per day (3 + 1 for Cha bonus).</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">Casting eagle’s splendor increases his Charisma to 16, which</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">would grant 6 attempts per day. At the end of the spell,</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">however, his daily limit would drop back down to 4 attempts.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">At that point, the player must compare the number of daily uses</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">expended to the daily limit to see if any still remain.</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px"></span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">Here’s how that might work in play. Our cleric turns</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">undead twice, then casts eagle’s splendor right before a big</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">fight with a horde of zombies. During the duration of the spell,</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">he makes four more turning checks. When the spell ends, he</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">compares his new daily limit (4) to the number of attempts used</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">(6)—whoops, no turns left. Hope all the undead have been</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">destroyed, because even if the cleric cast eagle’s splendor</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">again, he wouldn’t have any more turning attempts available,</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">since he’s already used all 6 of his allotted attempts. If he could</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">increase his Charisma to 18, he’d “gain” one more turning</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">attempt (since he has now used 6 out of his allotted 7 daily</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">attempts), usable only during the duration of the Charisma-boosting</span></em></p><p><em><span style="font-size: 9px">effect."</span></em></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="mvincent, post: 3834103, member: 27034"] Correct. From the 3.5 FAQ: [I][SIZE=1]"a change to the key ability score indeed affects the daily limit— in the example above, the cleric would gain 2 additional turn/rebuke attempts per day—but these aren’t just “free” uses. Here’s why: Assume the cleric above has a normal Charisma score of 12, granting him 4 turn attempts per day (3 + 1 for Cha bonus). Casting eagle’s splendor increases his Charisma to 16, which would grant 6 attempts per day. At the end of the spell, however, his daily limit would drop back down to 4 attempts. At that point, the player must compare the number of daily uses expended to the daily limit to see if any still remain. Here’s how that might work in play. Our cleric turns undead twice, then casts eagle’s splendor right before a big fight with a horde of zombies. During the duration of the spell, he makes four more turning checks. When the spell ends, he compares his new daily limit (4) to the number of attempts used (6)—whoops, no turns left. Hope all the undead have been destroyed, because even if the cleric cast eagle’s splendor again, he wouldn’t have any more turning attempts available, since he’s already used all 6 of his allotted attempts. If he could increase his Charisma to 18, he’d “gain” one more turning attempt (since he has now used 6 out of his allotted 7 daily attempts), usable only during the duration of the Charisma-boosting effect."[/SIZE][/I] [/QUOTE]
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