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Message: <blockquote data-quote="smilinggm" data-source="post: 2816034" data-attributes="member: 2394">Here is a variant idea to Turning Undead that I have been kicking arond in my head for a bit.  It eliminates the Turn Undead table completly.  Step 1: the PC making the turn attempt rolls:1d20 + Turn Level + Cha Mod + Misc Mods = Turn DC.   (Turn Level = the total PC's Level for Classes and PrC with the ability to turn undead)(Misc Mods = any feats, special abilities or magic that affect the PC's turn level)Step 2:  Roll 2d6 + Turn Level + your Charisma modifier to see how many undead w/in a 60' burst of the PC are affected.  Step 3: The undead in question must make a Will Save + HD + any misc mods.  Equal to or greater than the Turn DC.   If the undead makes the save they are not turned.  If the Undead fail the save by 1/2 then the undead is destroyed.  The same rules apply for PC's attempting to Rebuke or Command Undead.  Effect and Duration of TurningTurned undead flee from you by the best and fastest means available to them. They flee for 10 rounds (1 minute). If they cannot flee, they cower (giving any attack rolls against them a +2 bonus). If you approach within 10 feet of them, however, they overcome being turned and act normally. (You can stand within 10 feet without breaking the turning effect—you just can’t approach them.) You can attack them with ranged attacks (from at least 10 feet away), and others can attack them in any fashion, without breaking the turning effect.Dispelling TurningAn evil cleric may channel negative energy to dispel a good cleric’s turning effect. The evil cleric makes a turning check as if attempting to rebuke the undead. If the turning check result is equal to or greater than the turning check result that the good cleric scored when turning the undead, then the undead are no longer turned. The evil cleric rolls turning damage of 2d6 + cleric level + Charisma modifier to see how many Hit Dice worth of undead he can affect in this way (as if he were rebuking them). Bolstering UndeadAn evil cleric may also bolster undead creatures against turning in advance. He makes a turning check as if attempting to rebuke the undead, but the Hit Dice result   becomes the undead creatures’ effective Hit Dice as far as turning is concerned (provided the result is higher than the creatures’ actual Hit Dice). The bolstering lasts 10 rounds. An evil undead cleric can bolster himself in this manner. (Sections cut, pasted and modified from the SRD)IMHO this looks balanced. It takes in to account every feat related to turn undead that I can think of.  And is very quick and easy to resolve.  NO CHART.</blockquote>

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