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<blockquote data-quote="Alex319" data-source="post: 4739472" data-attributes="member: 45678"><p>I meant to also respond to this quote in your post but didn't see it:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Upon what basis do you make the claim that plate mail "should" be beyond the reach of 1st level paladins?</p><p></p><p>Do you have a complete economic model of the game world in mind, where you can calculate how how much iron can be mined in a given period of time, how much labor and materials each suit of plate mail costs, so you can figure out how many suits of plate mail the economy can produce in a year and if so what the supply and demand curves would look like to figure out the price?</p><p></p><p>Are you basing your claim on real-life, historical equipment prices? If so, (1) how do you know that the introduction of magic into the world (or all the other ways that the D+D world might be different than the real world) won't affect the prices and (2) what conversion rate are you using to convert historical prices into D+D gold pieces, and how did you know what rate to choose?</p><p></p><p>Are you basing your claim on prices in 3.5e or previous editions? If so, what makes you think that previous editions represent the way things "should" be?</p><p></p><p>Are you basing your claim on a price list from another fictional source, like Dark Sun? (I'm not familiar with Dark Sun, so that might limit what kind of advice I'll be able to give.) If so it seems like you could just choose an appropriate conversion rate, import the price list directly, and there's your solution.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Alex319, post: 4739472, member: 45678"] I meant to also respond to this quote in your post but didn't see it: Upon what basis do you make the claim that plate mail "should" be beyond the reach of 1st level paladins? Do you have a complete economic model of the game world in mind, where you can calculate how how much iron can be mined in a given period of time, how much labor and materials each suit of plate mail costs, so you can figure out how many suits of plate mail the economy can produce in a year and if so what the supply and demand curves would look like to figure out the price? Are you basing your claim on real-life, historical equipment prices? If so, (1) how do you know that the introduction of magic into the world (or all the other ways that the D+D world might be different than the real world) won't affect the prices and (2) what conversion rate are you using to convert historical prices into D+D gold pieces, and how did you know what rate to choose? Are you basing your claim on prices in 3.5e or previous editions? If so, what makes you think that previous editions represent the way things "should" be? Are you basing your claim on a price list from another fictional source, like Dark Sun? (I'm not familiar with Dark Sun, so that might limit what kind of advice I'll be able to give.) If so it seems like you could just choose an appropriate conversion rate, import the price list directly, and there's your solution. [/QUOTE]
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