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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Celebrim" data-source="post: 6751812" data-attributes="member: 4937">You quoted my whole post just to say that?  Help me out here by stating what my assessment of the maneuver was please.Well, that you can be easily grappled out of a clinch is one of the downsides of the clinch, and one of the effective counters to it.  And sure, the better of a fighter you are, the better you do in a clinch and the more easily you can resist one.  And there are for example feats like Improved Clinch, that represent specific training and expertise in the clinch.Sure.  But your theory here is now speaking to my 5 years of experience successfully running the maneuver.  It better be a good theory.  Also, it should reference your practical experience of fights between Sidhe and say Sauropods.</blockquote>