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<blockquote data-quote="Primitive Screwhead" data-source="post: 4054411" data-attributes="member: 20805">Seems to be the week of completely left field thoughts for me <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />An interesting take would be to change the turning mechanic into a variant of poison.Turn Undead:&nbsp;Expend a turn usage and target all undead within 30' with an caster attack* vs Will. The undead gain the condition of 'Turned' and must stay at least 30' away from you and take {cleric level} hps in Radiant damage each round. 4e Save to shake off the effect.&nbsp;Turn resistance applies to the 4e Save as a bonus.&nbsp;Creatures with vulnerablity to Radiant take an additional amount of HP loss equal to thier vulnerability rating.Buff Undead:&nbsp;Expend a turn usage and all undead within 30' gain fast healing equal to {caster level}. This effect lasts for {CHR mod} in rounds or until the undead move further than 30' from the caster.* caster attack is the presumed BAB like score for casters...or I could just be off my rocker... <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Primitive Screwhead, post: 4054411, member: 20805"] Seems to be the week of completely left field thoughts for me :) An interesting take would be to change the turning mechanic into a variant of poison. Turn Undead: Expend a turn usage and target all undead within 30' with an caster attack* vs Will. The undead gain the condition of 'Turned' and must stay at least 30' away from you and take {cleric level} hps in Radiant damage each round. 4e Save to shake off the effect. Turn resistance applies to the 4e Save as a bonus. Creatures with vulnerablity to Radiant take an additional amount of HP loss equal to thier vulnerability rating. Buff Undead: Expend a turn usage and all undead within 30' gain fast healing equal to {caster level}. This effect lasts for {CHR mod} in rounds or until the undead move further than 30' from the caster. * caster attack is the presumed BAB like score for casters... or I could just be off my rocker... :) [/QUOTE]

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