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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Aries_Omega" data-source="post: 3211983" data-attributes="member: 15693">TestsWhat about something more concrete? Something that tests the character to ensure they have the abilities for the class. Here are a few examples:Arcane Archer (normal requirements)<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Race Elf or Half-Elf</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Base Attack Bonus: +6</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats: Point Blank Shot, Precise Shot, Weapon Focus (bows)</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spells: Ability to cast 1st level arcane spells</li> </ul>As a single character class minimum level to gain all this is Brd8, Sor12 or Wiz12. This is what I am trying to avoid. Here is the same prestige class done up as a test.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Test of the Twelve Arrows. The applicant must cast magic weapon on the provided bow, then take twelve +1 arrows into a specially tended part of the forest. Before night falls, she must slay a wild boar, use magic to capture an owl, and bring down the albino stag without hitting any of the other stags in the herd. The applicant fails if the tasks aren’t completed by nightfall or if she runs out of arrows.</li> </ul>The test says nothing about feats or anything, but if you have the above mentioned items you are going to pass this no prob. Here is another example with assassin.Arcane Archer (normal requirements)<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alignment: Any evil</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skills: Disguise 4 ranks, Hide 8 ranks, Move Silently 8 ranks.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Special: The character must kill someone for no other reason than to join the assassins.</li> </ul>As a single character class minimum level to gain all this is Brd5, Mnk5, Rgr5, Rog5, Bbn13, Clr13, Drd13, Ftr13, Sor13 or Wiz13. Here is the same prestige class done up as a test.<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">The Test of Corvu u Khalai—“Eliminate, then replace.” Contacted by an anonymous letter, the applicant is given the name of a well-known functionary in the noble court, often the chamberlain, troubadour, or court wizard. The applicant must sneak into the castle on the night of the full moon, kill the target, and then impersonate him. The test is a success if the applicant walks out of the castle disguised as the target when the gates open in the morning, carrying the target’s head in a satchel.</li> </ul>As before the test says nothing about feats or anything, but if you have the above mentioned items you are going to pass this no prob.With that said here is the prestige paladin items needed. What do you think a fair test is for it that if you had these abilities would show it and if you didn't means you could possibly fail<ul> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Alignment: Lawful Good</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Base Attack Bonus +4</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Skills: Knowledge (religion) 2 ranks, Knowledge (nobility and royalty) 2 ranks, Ride 4 ranks</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Feats: Mounted Combat</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Spells: Ability to cast protection from evil as a divine spell</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ul">Special: Ability to turn undead.</li> </ul></blockquote>

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