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<blockquote data-quote="Chupacabra" data-source="post: 3210419" data-attributes="member: 17708">When a cleric or paladin turns undead, is he/she channeling divine power and acting merely as a conduit or is it an inherent ability of that character?&nbsp; Specifically, I am thinking about starting a campaign with a party of drow PC's to run thru the City of the Spider Queen adventure.&nbsp; Given the whole &quot;Lolth is silent and doesn't grant any spells&quot; premise, I'm wondering if her clerics would retain the ability to rebuke?&nbsp; If turning/rebuking is a personal ability, then I would think the answer is yes.&nbsp; If it is merely a manifestation of divine power, if that cleric's god no longer was around (killed or &quot;silent&quot; or missing or cosmically out-to-lunch or whatever) then I think the cleric is out of luck when it comes to turning/rebuking.I want to do the adventuring party &quot;by the book&quot; with the archetypal party: one cleric, one wizard, one fighter, one rogue.&nbsp; Given the large number of undead in that particular adventure, if the cleric is Lolth-worshipping I would like to know if she is going lose the ability to rebuke (as well as losing her spells -- which can be covered by items I guess).</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Chupacabra, post: 3210419, member: 17708"] When a cleric or paladin turns undead, is he/she channeling divine power and acting merely as a conduit or is it an inherent ability of that character? Specifically, I am thinking about starting a campaign with a party of drow PC's to run thru the [I]City of the Spider Queen[/I] adventure. Given the whole "Lolth is silent and doesn't grant any spells" premise, I'm wondering if her clerics would retain the ability to rebuke? If turning/rebuking is a personal ability, then I would think the answer is yes. If it is merely a manifestation of divine power, if that cleric's god no longer was around (killed or "silent" or missing or cosmically out-to-lunch or whatever) then I think the cleric is out of luck when it comes to turning/rebuking. I want to do the adventuring party "by the book" with the archetypal party: one cleric, one wizard, one fighter, one rogue. Given the large number of undead in that particular adventure, if the cleric is Lolth-worshipping I would like to know if she is going lose the ability to rebuke (as well as losing her spells -- which can be covered by items I guess). [/QUOTE]

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