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Message: <blockquote data-quote="howandwhy99" data-source="post: 5868626" data-attributes="member: 3192">I know I'm cherry picking and that isn't cool. I simply want to point out that in D&D almost all of the magical spells were about exploration. I'd grant you the cleric's spells were vastly more about socialization or diplomacy, but that was more of the cleric's deal too. That players took every one of these and attempted to find some utility for each in combat (even Find Familiar in one game I was in back in middle school) is just indicative of the play preferences or style those players had. It wasn't right or wrong. A lot of stuff was used out of context, out of the box so to speak. Such play meant not seeing any one spell or power as a one trick pony. Anything might be useful in any given situation if one were creative enough. Only later did balancing become exclusively a concern in regards to combat and not everything also outside of encounters.If the game goes to player turn by player turn play, sharing the DM from one pov, the whole thing is bound to slow inexorably down. The OD&D games I play and run do this, but it simply isn't mandatory. My players have tired of me telling them that group initiative, group actions, and working together make things go much faster ...but, this is never mandatory. Each player chooses to work together or apart. Talking amongst players is actually a sign of progress in my experience. Even if they are arguing out each one's preference, it comes down to both caring about what to do in the game. Allowing both group and individual actions (public and private) means play is as fast as the players can account for. It places direction, manner, and pacing on them. Don't get me wrong. This isn't easy and I've rarely seen it happen quickly like in a one off convention game, its simply hard to gel with strangers in that amount of time, but teams that work together and have developed their own repartee do come to tournaments and can run a DM through the paces.</blockquote>

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