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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ruin Explorer" data-source="post: 8979586" data-attributes="member: 18">I'd second all of this though I was personally less impressed with Prodigy, I feel like it made a lot of unnecessary errors on various levels (and not because it's a child-oriented show). But Strange New Worlds is as good as 1990s Trek, and so is most of S3 of Picard, which is shocking because S1 and S2 definitely were not.Orville's S1 is rough, and it has a lot of crude Gen-X-y humour and references that are positively Boomer-ish (how is MacFarlane only 49 with these kind of references lol?), but it improves to an incredible degree and as of S3 it's basically teaching Star Trek lessons - S3 Orville, is, and I am amazed to say this - about as good as the best of TNG and close to the best of DS9. The humour and weirdly old references (especially musical ones! To be fair TNG and even DS9 kind of shared this but it was the late 1980s through 1990s so there was an excuse! There were referencing like 30+ years back, not like 60+ years back) never go away, but the decrease severely in how often they come up. A lot of this I think comes simply from Orville S3 having incredibly long episodes but a similar format to TNG - usually around 70 minutes, whereas TNG was, 44 minutes, which allows them to really focus on stories, give characters time to breathe, ideas time to be discussed. That and the fact that weirdly, The Orville is somehow more committed to the ideals of its Federation-equivalent than even Picard was in TNG.</blockquote>

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